# Repug candidates, what a malignent troupe of FUX!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 7, 2007, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328 "2007-09-07T02:03:21Z")
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### Author: ![Soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/21 "2007-09-07T03:40:38Z")

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This thread has so many “fucks” in it that I think I need a cigarette.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/22 "2007-09-07T03:43:35Z")

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Fuckin’ A, man.

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### Author: ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/23 "2007-09-07T03:44:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Boyo Jim]  
So maybe they’re not stupid, but they play stupid on TV.  
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But Thompson plays “avuncular, authoritative stupid,” so he’s gonna win. :dubious:

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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/24 "2007-09-07T03:49:47Z")

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OK, so should I mark **Aeschines** as ‘undecided’ then?

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/25 "2007-09-07T03:51:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]  
It’s laughably partisan when **Mr. Moto** says such about the Democrats needing to move to the right, and it’s no less so in reverse.  
[/QUOTE]  
Of course not. That’s why I said it.  
If they want to run their party into the ground, it’s **entirely** their call. 🙂

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/26 "2007-09-07T03:58:07Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
Sorry, I just don’t think that a high “fuck” count and blindingly obvious cracks about Fred Thompson’s phisog make for all that compelling a rant. Carry on.  
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Neither do I, but it was glaringly obvious that the OP was not _for_ the Republican candidates, contrary to your post.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/27 "2007-09-07T04:24:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Neither do I, but it was glaringly obvious that the OP was not _for_ the Republican candidates, contrary to your post.  
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Sorry again, guess I was wasn’t being clear. I was commenting on his being in favor of the current Republican slate in the sense that it is one that may be unelectable, then bitching about how unelectable they are.

Hey, what can I say, I’m tired.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/28 "2007-09-07T04:35:07Z")

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I have to say that normally I’m befuddled by which of the lesser of two evils I want to vote for. However, watching the Republicans this time I’m just left scratching my head and saying “So, this is it?”

Now, I do understand **Mr Moto** ’s point in that the experience level of some of these guys is easily on par with Clinton or Obama. But it’s not “experience” that I’m looking at here, it’s something more like gravitas. These guys should have gravitas-- men like McCain and Giuliani. I just haven’t seen it.

They need to shake off this disaster of a policy called “Iraq”. Fess up and admit that it was one of the the worst foreign policy decisions (if not the worst) in the last 50 years. I’m not worried about gay marriage and we all know that \*Roe \*isn’t going to be overturned. Just get us the fuck out of Iraq.

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/29 "2007-09-07T09:55:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]  
I said it before, and I’ll say it again - the front runners in the Republican field are excellent candidates and fine Americans. They have all done more for their country than nearly anyone in the Democratic horse race with similar levels of support.  
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Bartender! Give me a glass of whatever he’s drinking!

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### Author: ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/30 "2007-09-07T12:44:32Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Bartender! Give me a glass of whatever he’s drinking!  
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Actually, it usually is served on little tabs of blotter paper.

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### Author: ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/31 "2007-09-07T13:10:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Aeschines]  
Then the true “bush,” Hillary Clinton, will show these limp-membered fuckers–all of them!–who’s really boss!!!  
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Oh, great. We can have Jenna versus Chelsea after this generation, and then their spawn after that.

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/32 "2007-09-07T13:29:04Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
So, uh, you fucking actually want a fucking electable Republican fucking candidate, or fucking what?  
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I didn’t think there was one in 2000 or 2004. The rest of America disagreed. Now that the Dems have a name frontrunner (who, like Bush before her, is trading in on the name recognigtion more than on her own ability), they stand a good chance. And while I’m no big fan of Hillary, and don’t know much about Barrack (and none of the others have even a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination), they beat our their Republican counterparts. This NYer would never, ever again waste a vote on Guiliani; Thompson is way too conservative for me; McCain might be worth exploring if he gets the nomination, but I doubt he will; and I know too little about Romney.

**Lib** , can we get that match on PPV?

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### Author: ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/33 "2007-09-07T13:36:01Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Bartender! Give me a glass of whatever he’s drinking!  
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One Kool-Aid coming up!

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/34 "2007-09-07T13:40:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Aeschines]  
And I specifically recognized that McCain was against torture. Doh!!!  
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Sure, but after riding the “Vote for me! I got tortured!” wave into a Senate seat, he voted to confirm Alberto “It ain’t torture unless the President says it’s torture” Gonzales.

So, I consider it a wash.

-Joe

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### Author: ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/35 "2007-09-07T14:03:32Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Bartender! Give me a glass of whatever he’s drinking!  
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You miss my point.

I am one of the most partisan members here, but my criticisms of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or any other Democrat (or indeed, any Republican I criticize) generally concerns their political positions or their conduct in office. I have made a real effort in recent years not to criticize the personal character, intelligence, or sanity of politicians except on those rare instances where those matters become political questions themselves.

Now, I don’t think others ought to observe this rule necessarily. Indeed, comedy and satire would be poorer if it were strictly observed. Yet I find it funny that so frequently people who oppose my ideas choose to attack or politicians I favor and refrain from taking on these arguments head on.

This board doesn’t do this much, actually - here the arguments on policy are valued. However, this particular thread isn’t a shining example of that. Even in the Pit, I’d expect better, truth be told.

In no sane universe is a Republican a malignant fuck. At worst, he is a person you have a political disagreement with. And even if that disagreement is a profound and deep one, that’s really all it is.

If politics consumes you so much that you hate your political enemies to this degree, your life is quite sad indeed.

Of course, the more likely explanation is that this hatred is only keyboard deep, and the OP is blowing off steam in this rather harmless way. Perfectly fair, and I use this place myself as a debating society I can’t find IRL.

But would you say the same things at a podium in front of a bunch of people - an audience you didn’t know? Betcha you wouldn’t, **Aeschines**. I think you’d make your criticisms in very different language.

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/36 "2007-09-07T14:25:03Z")

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Just jokin’ with ya, Mr. Moto. But seriously, I think most impartial observers would state that the Republican voter is more likely to be unhappy with the choices than the Democratic voter. There are a lot of Pubs that can’t stand McCain, a lot that don’t like Guiliani’s abortion stance, etc. That’s why a guy like Thompson can sneak in so late and do so well. Contrast that with the Dems, a lot of us have no problem with an Obama nomination, or a Hillary, or Biden, or Dodd, or Edwards. It seems to me in 2008, the Republicans are as yet unwilling to unite under any of their front runners.

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### Author: ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/37 "2007-09-07T14:33:09Z")

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Sure, the Republican candidates suck but the Dems don’t have much better. Where the OP sees Fascists on the right, I see Socialists on the left.

The OP thinks the Pubes will drive Hummers to the airport where they will fly in private jets to Gitmo. There they will torture anyone that looks at them funny, all the while making racist and sexist jokes, discussing the billions they are making by raping the environment and plotting the mandatory execution of homosexuals. I think the Dims will empty my savings account and give it to illegal aliens, drug dealers, late term abortion doctors, “oppressed” minorities and to the preservation of the rare five-ass monkey. (OK, that is a slight exaggeration. I don’t believe in a five-ass monkey).

Bad mouthing Bush only works if he was running for another term. You don’t like the war in Iraq? Give us your timetable for ending our presence and, if you are in a position currently to do something about it, put your money where your mouth is and deny the funds and demand troop caps (I’m talking to Clinton and Obama here).

I have been moderate on social issues and conservative on defense and economic matters. None of the candidates really fit the bill so I’m in a quandary again about choosing the lesser of the evils. I want a good middle of the road candidate, not Rambo and not Mr. Rogers. Not Scrooge and not Mother Theresa. Not Hitler and not Lenin. It ain’t gonna happen.

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### Author: ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/38 "2007-09-07T14:44:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
Yes, of course. They are _all_ such wonderful Americans, each and every one of them. :rolleyes:  
It looks to me as if you are ready, willing and able to kiss the ass of any Republican who wins.  
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You’ve got to remember that, on the evidence of his postings on Iraq, Moto is posting from some alternate universe. Maybe ithere the candidates are all that he says.

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### Author: ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/39 "2007-09-07T14:46:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]  
Bush doesn’t represent ‘the right’ any more than, oh, let’s say **Der Trihs** represents ‘the left’.  
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On the happy day DT is elected President you be sure to get back to us with this razor-sharp insight.

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### Author: ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repug-candidates-what-a-malignent-troupe-of-fux/418328/40 "2007-09-07T14:57:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Aeschines]  
It’s “McCain,” dumbfuck.  
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Thanks; you’re quite right about that, and I’ll try not to make that mistake in the future. You’re a gentleman.

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