Hey, now, be fair. First of all, it was my stuff. Second of all, we had the kind of desks you don’t have to rummage through to see their contents. I was more offended that she’d done such a lazy job of stealing than I was by the theft itself. She even used an eye-catching color of paper.
Dude, she was hitting on you. Trying to get your attention. Nothing more flirtatious than a missing glue stick. She was saying she was “stuck on you.”
I was so sure you were joking with this, until I went to amazon and saw it right there in front of my eyes. If that book is more than 25 pages long, I just don’t know what I’ll do. I might just have to buy it and put it up on my shelf next to John Gibson’s The War on Christmas.
Are you sure it isn’t called Dude, Where’s the Birth Certificate?
You got away easy, you only went to school with her. Out there, somewhere, some guy…
I know it doesn’t quite make sense, but this gave me a mental image of a baby with a rectangle of orange construction paper taped to him as his mother lies about his paternity.
Definitely the latter, since this was a reasonably affluent area and a bottle of glue costs what, $1.49? In any case it teaches kids that if you’re irresponsible and fail to contribute, other people will simply be forced to take care of you.
Oh for the love of fuck - that’s asinine. Teaching children to be social parasites because they share glue? I honestly thought Glen Beck was putting on an act, thank you for disabusing me of the notion that no one is that stupid.
It’s a better idea to teach them that young that they don’t have to bother to get what they need, that the government will provide?
And you honestly believe that the simple act of sharing class supplies teaches children to be dependent wards of the state, not that cooperation is a good way for a group to accomplish a common goal?
I wasn’t responding to the idea of simple sharing, I was responding to the question of whether “forcefully seizing and redistributing property is the “right thing” to do”. Since that is what the government does to taxpayers to support those who cannot be bothered to be responsible for themselves, I kind of wonder if teaching kindergardeners that this is the correct order of things is a good idea.
“The ____ Show” was used on the wrong SDMB poster. It should have been called The Curlcoat Show.
Thread’s over, everyone. The rest will now be everyone arguing with Curlcoat.
Ah, so you belive that if kindergarteners share supplies thay will make the leap to;
“forcefully seizing and redistributing property is the “right thing” to do”
Correct?
If not, then when you make the satement:
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please explain how they are being “taught” other then through sharing.
I realize that you are unable to form opinions without the help of Faux News, but there are probably others here who can think for themselves and use their heads for things other than growing hair. So why don’t you just run along?
Did you read the thread? Rigamarole’s parents paid for school supplies and at least the glue was taken from him and the other students who had glue, so it could be used by all the students. Therefore, some of those kindergardeners came to the (government) school and found their parents didn’t need to bother to buy glue like the other parents, because the school would provide. That is not sharing - the owners of the glue had no say in whether or not others would use it, they were forced to hand it over. Hence Rigamarole saying “Is it really cool to teach our kids that forcefully seizing and redistributing property is the “right thing” to do?”.
Then, elucidator thought it was oh so terrible to “humiliate” those kids who didn’t have glue and it’s so much better to force the children of the responsible parents to give up their glue without even the option of sharing. And my comment is that I think the possibility of “humiliating” a few kindergardeners is far better than teaching them all that earning things is unnecessary, because someone will come along and hand you whatever you need.
That was a witty ad hominem, but can you actually explain how it doesn’t?
You made the assertion, it is your responsibility to prove it.
If I say there’s a bunny at the center of the sun, is it your responsibility to prove I’m wrong?
This is the most hilarious thing I’ve read all day. Do you really think that teachers/schools make these decisions based upon philosophical insights or do they do it based upon what makes it possible to manage 30 kids in a classroom at one time without it turning into Lord of the flies.
And in the UK the government pays for it all, socialism!
I read it and understand it perfectly.
And my question still stands unanswered:
Do you believe that if kindergarteners share supplies they will make the leap to;
“forcefully seizing and redistributing property is the “right thing” to do”
You made this assertion. I’d like to know if you truly believe it.
Will you forbid your own children from borrowing any supplies in kindergarten?
If they forget their lunch one day in the years they will spend in school will you instruct them that when a friend offers to share they must refuse and go hungry lest they become part of the socialist disease that is corrupting the nation?
Honestly, I believe that the ideals of self sufficiency and independence are admirable values. But when taken to such extreme limits that we lose consideration for everyone else it becomes destructive. Do you honestly want you children to go to a school that will make them stand in he corner if they don’t have a blue crayon? If my child lost or broke their blue crayon I would prefer the class share and everyone was able to move on with the lesson.
Does this offend you?
What do you know. We’ve actually got people advocating the Ayn Rand School of Parenting here. How adorable.
This sort of rearing is obviously the only sure-fire way to bring up a socially well-adjusted little capitalist.
My guess is that the glue was stored in a common, teacher-controlled space so that:
a) it didn’t get spilled inside desks when kids forgot to close it
b) Johnny didn’t use it to glue Susie’s notebook pages together
And, of course, to support the collective.