In my daughter’s school, on the first day of kindergarten the children all en tired their school supplies (glue, crayons, markers, pencils, etc.) into community bins to be used by everyone throughout the year. I know at least one parent complained for the same reason mentioned in the original post. This was 1987.
When the day comes where your opinion on any subject is worth more than dog shit, I’ll see that you are notified. Until then, you less than intelligent actualizer of the classic Oiedipal fantasy, feel free to put me on your ignore list.
See, the point of this thread was to smear a possible GOP candidate for POTUS, over something one of his appointees failed to actually do several years ago. But that went right over your pointy little head, because you’re a shameless partisan hack and a boil on the ass of humanity.
I actually made a thread to deal with you so we don’t have to hijack this.
The thread I’m reading is about is about Republican mindless paranoia over socialism. I don’t know what thread you’re reading.
However the post you quoted was just mocking the retards for labeling everything that isn’t a tax cut for the rich as socialism.
My kids always got instructions to get only the 16 pack of crayons. Screw that - I always got them the 84 (?) big pack with the sharpener.
I’m really sorry that some kids can only afford the 16 pack, but I enjoyed art class an awful lot, and I’m not going to limit my kids creative streak by curtailing their choice of color shades to save someone else’s feelings.
I also have an issue with the “community supplies.” It makes me uncomfortable that the teacher does just swoop down and confiscate everything, without any explanation to the kids. If it’s presented as a sharing thing, then maybe. But with no explanation, it does come off a little authoritarian/redistributive to me.
It’s presented as a community thing but it’s not evenly shared. As I explained my coworker’s granddaughter got in trouble for not having a pencil but my coworker had bought a couple packs of pencils at the start of school. So there should have been a pencil for her from those supplies. She paid in, she should have been able to make a withdrawal.
I don’t know what kind of -ism that is but it’s not socialism. Though it does sound a lot like Social Security.
I think that was my mother’s problem too. I remember her saying my teacher should’ve just sent the crayons back home with a note if she had an issue with them.
This thread has been an interesting insight into how some of you - well, I guess I have to call it “think”, even tho there doesn’t seem to be a lot of thinking going on. Examples are those of you that think that forcing someone to allow their things to be used by others is the same thing as sharing; that any time there is any inequality, those with less must feel “humiliated”; that kindergardeners are not allowed to have any input on what is going on around them.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that these same people cannot grasp the idea that if you expose young children to concepts that are above their heads at the time, they will still sink in at some level, and if repeated tend to become truths to them. Such as teaching school children that everyone must have equal supplies, and those who cannot afford them will be given some of those owned by those who could afford them, whether they like it or not.
I guess I shouldn’t expect more from a society that thinks that anyone, no matter what, has the right to raise the next generation - you get enough of these folks that think the world owes them a living having kids, you start getting things like justification for stealing crayons and glue from 5 year olds.
Okay, I’m probably going to regret this, but here’s the question: what exactly do you propose should happen to the kids who have no supplies? You know that’s not the kids fault, right? As I recall, crayons and glue and whatnot were necessary for much of the curriculum in kindergarten/early elementary school, so if there are kids who have no supplies (and aren’t going to get any because that will make them little commies), what are they meant to do all day? Don’t you think that leaving those kids to twiddle their thumbs all day is going to cause problems for *all *the kids?
You put it better than I could have. Well said.
Starving Artist ? Starkers is that you ? What on Earth are you doing at curlcoat’s, man ?
It’s not about inequality, fuckmook ! It’s about practicality (keeping supplies in the classroom so that the “Mommy forgot to put my glue in my baaaaaaag” situation is neatly avoided throughout the year) and about kids being able to do what they’re supposed to.
I’m not about to suggest little Billy give little Tyrone his hat, because Tyrone has no hat and that’s so unfair. But if Tyrone can’t make Mommy a macaroni collage because he has no glue, then A) he’s going to pitch a tantrum which will disrupt the whole class and B) his development skills, you know, the reason he’s in kindergarten in the first place ? Yeah, those are not progressing one bit if you force him to sit in a puddle of his own piss to make a fuckretarded political point.
Getting Tyrone to learn properly is more important that your 2 dollar pot of fucking glue (that you’re never going to use up by the end of the year anyway).
As for the nuance between sharing voluntarily and being told to share, once again, for a 5 year old there’s no difference. They’re not big on nuances, kids. When Mommy says “eat your food, you like that food”, she’s not giving him a choice either.
No, they don’t. And if they do, they can question those truths when they’re older. That’s called growing up.
That’s how YOU think. That’s not what they think or how they understand it, nor is it how the teachers think.
You’re a drooling imbecile. Thank god you don’t have kids.
Curlcoat, I assume that you would be willing to pay extra tuition to hire staff to keep track of just who’s crayons and glue etc. belongs to whom throughout each school day.
I think we should arm the children so they can protect their property from socialist thievery. Relying on the state to enforce the safety of yourself and property is flagrant socialism, encouraging a mindset of helplessness and discouraging self reliance.
Remember, people, this is Curlcoat, who will repeatedly assert that only the people who have saved and have stockpiles of cash on hand beforehand should have children. Any appeal on behalf of the children of the impoverished will go right over her miserly, meanspirited head. In her world, those children have no right to exist, that they already do is of no consequence. She sees no reason to support them and perpetuate a notion that poorer people might procreate without penalties against the children they birth.
Basically she’s a shriveled hateful evil greedy whore. Her parents shouldn’t have of had her until they were in a position to raise children right, not do whatever they did to her.
Curlcoat, you would agree, of course, that public schools should be publicly funded out of the public tax dollar to the degree that basic and necessary school supplies should be available to the students.
No, you don’t?
Well that leaves the students sharing their supplies with each other, or some students not participating in the lessons due to their parents’ negligence.
Better that taxes go up to the tune of a few crayons a year, or that students share crayons, than the cycle of neglect continue. I’m sure you would agree with this.
No, you don’t?
How very sad.
Hey, wow! Can we do this now? This will make debates SO much easier!! I may even go back to GD every now and then!
Y’know, this viewpoint is essentially the ONLY right answer to the thread, regardless of anyone’s particular ideological bias. Public school, public supplies. Kid wants extra fancies? Have mom buy some, and don’t require their sharing.
Starving Artist and curlcoat have been sharing a single brain for quite some time now. A tiny, diseased walnut of a brain at that. It’s sad, but thet’re just trying to make do with what they have, poor dears.