# Resolved: antisemitism is not directly comparable to anti-black racism

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**Created:** [January 9, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-antisemitism-is-not-directly-comparable-to-anti-black-racism/709431 "2015-01-09T20:40:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-antisemitism-is-not-directly-comparable-to-anti-black-racism/709431/3 "2015-01-09T21:09:08Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Not clear on the argument under debate.
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> That Jewish and Black experiences have been different is beyond dispute.
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> Whether one group or another had it worse depends very much on time and place. Is this about America only, or worldwide, or what?
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> I’d much rather be Black in America in the 1940s than Jewish in Europe in the 1940s, but I sense this isn’t what you are wanting to debate.
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> Is the question “the history of Blacks in America is different from that of Jews in America, so that they cannot be directly compared”, I would say I agree with that.

These are the two posts that make the analogy and that, I think, are woefully flawed:

> [@Why do black pupils in the US underachieve academically when one factors out poverty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-black-pupils-in-the-us-underachieve-academically-when-one-factors-out-poverty/482948/159):
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> [ul][li]It doesn’t seem to be racism, since Jews and Chinese in the US who experienced vicious racism tend to outscore whites and blacks in the US. [/li][/ul]

> [@Why do black pupils in the US underachieve academically when one factors out poverty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-black-pupils-in-the-us-underachieve-academically-when-one-factors-out-poverty/482948/213):
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> I am seriously under the impression that ancestral oppression has no more to do with black underachievement when poverty is factored out than it does with Jewish achievement when poverty is factored out.

While both Jews and African Americans have faced terrible prejudice in the US, I think the **specifics** of the injustice are highly salient when analyzing the differences between achievement levels of Jewish and African American students (as well as when analyzing other differences). The suggestion, implicit or explicit, that both Jews and black people have faced oppression, but Jews do well in school but black kids don’t, so there must be a genetic cause, is very silly.

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