Resolved: I fucking hate soccer!

I don’t think that Germany or the Netherlands or even England (my ancestral homeland) are composed of primitives but they do need a sport that will work with the lowest common denominator and that is what you see with the World Cup.

If you want to know the real answer to this question, it is the rest of the world doesn’t know how to put on a good show. European television generally sucks pretty hard let alone the rest of the world. That is why the rest of the world watches U.S. television and movies. World Cup broadcasts are so poorly done that Americans don’t want to watch them even without being accosted by a vuvuzela.

Europeans in general are pretty good outfit and the paintings are outstanding but you can’t put on a decent TV show or movie to save your life. The standards are pretty high in the U.S. and the World Cup production values are an epic fail. Get it together and don’t just repeat “The beautiful game…the beautiful game” over and over. I said the same thing when I was chasing my daughters around the yard with a ball today and it was a lot more fun.

Here is what you want to emulate: NFL Superbowl

Hmph.

Now show me videos, at about a 10-1 ratio, of where these dildos whiffed at the ball and fell on their asses.

Pitiful.

For the record, I’m not disparaging the race or nationality of any of the soccer ‘players.’ Just the idiocy of the game itself.

Losers. Soccer is a game played by those who aren’t athletic enough to play anything else.

Apologies in advance if the following post is considered conciliatory…
I agree that the first part of Spain vs Paraguay was an example of less than entertaining football. You probably missed the last 30 minutes which were very exciting.

It’s very common for Americans to be unappreciative of football, or soccer as you call it, so you’re not alone. And understandably so, partly of course because Americans aren’t exposed to as much of it, nor at as young an age. There are also some inherent qualities that may cause members of the American culture to be less benignly disposed towards it.

Soccer as you call it, is a low scoring game. An average Premier League game only has two and a half goals. Scores such as 0-0, 1-0 and 1-1 are common.

Draws are very common compared to other sports. A draw is almost as common as a win. In an even matchup it’s probably THE most common result. A draw can be considerd a bit of an anti-climax or disappointing.

Only one pause, which is too long. American sports usually have several breaks, which might be a positive thing if you want to go get a drink, pee or do something else for a minute or two. The break there is in soccer is 15 minutes, which is way more than you need for the majority of stuff you may want to do so it may cause boredom or other negative emotions.

The offside rule is hard to explain. It’s created to prevent the tactic of just parking forwards in the goal boz and lobbing balls at them. So you cant sneak a player in behind the defence and THEN pass the ball to him. You need to time the run and the pass (usually called a cross when hit diagonally/high or a “through ball” if played more directly at goal and/or usually low.

The rules is that you are offside if you recieve the ball from a team mate and you at the time the pass was made was in “front” of the second-to-last defender. In front meaning closer to the shorter of the lines defining the pitch.

The tempo is somewhat slow. A game is played over 90 minutes and only three substitutions are allowed, which means the players have to conserve energy. In most american sports, when you do something, you do it at maximum of close to maximum energy levels. Once a baseball player runs or throws, he usually does so at close to his maximum speed and power. A linebacker in football doesn’t normally just jog towards his opponent or deliver a “mild” tackle. In soccer players will spend a lot of time jogging or walking to the tactically correct position, or just standing there if they’re already there. The need to conserve energy means it’s less intense in a way.

Finding the excitement in soccer is more complicated than in for example american football. When a really big guy smashes into another really big guy wearing awesome costumes it’s just naturally exciting. Jizzing your pants because of how a player recieved a rather ordinary cross without scoring a goal or making an important pass takes practise. Or being impressed by how a defender positioned himself in exactly the right place to intercept a pass.
I’d also like to adress some of the statements:

“There is no skill in soccer”. I’m sure you understand this is untrue. In fact one could argue that there’s probably MORE skill in soccer than any other game. It is after all the most played game in the world, with the most practicioners and with enormous financial and social incitaments for becoming good at it. The market has for example valued the right to use player Leo Messis skillset to be worth several hundred millions of dollars. The skills in football may be less obvious, I guess.

“Football players are pussies”. Actually no, they’re cheaters, they just look like pussies. When they fall over and roll around in pain after (not) being touched, they’re trying to fool the referee, they’re not actually hurting or suffering from bad balance.

Wow…just…wow.

Boo hoo, I don’t like something, therefore it is obviously crap, and anyone who does like it is automatically a loser.

I loathe soccer, but I don’t feel the need to put down those who do, or bitch about it. I just…don’t watch it! If I go to a bar or wherever where it’s on, I just ignore it. Duh.
I prefer football (NFL) and hockey fan. Do I expect everyone in the world will like either? No. Do I care? No.
Grow up, get bent, and get the fuck over yourself.

Stoneburg – in hockey, that’s called “diving.” And it IS considered being a pussy. (No offense, I’m just sayin’)

I already know how it works. In fact, I know quite a lot about football having watched and played it my entire life.

We already know it wasn’t by choice. We’re just amazed that (a) you were surprised that a sport’s bar would be showing the world’s most popular sport during the world’s most popular tournament (b) that you, in your capacity as a complete football ignoramus, would think it possible to judge the entirety of world football on the strength of one bad game, and (c) that you would then choose to share your insights with everyone else without doing the most rudimentary fact checking.

I don’t insist everyone love football. I don’t necessarily think badly of people who don’t like it. I just get pissed off with people slagging the game off without knowing dick about it.

From 25 yards out at speed with the whole world watching and three angry defenders breathing down your neck? No. I really don’t think you could. It’s harder than it looks.

Okay, we get it. It was a bad game. The problem is that you’re not really complaining about that specific game. You’re just using it as an excuse to bash the entire sport and everyone who likes it.

Yeah. Because we all know that the only people who can afford to play basketball are upper-middle class prep school kids from the Hamptons :rolleyes:

Oh, you want some more examples of skill, eh? Well how about these? I can post stuff like this until the heat death of the universe. There’s no shortage of great skill in soccer. If you’d watched more than one game, and, of course, if you really understood what you were watching, you’d be aware of this.

I don’t know dick about American football. Whenever I catch a game on late night TV I don’t see any skill whatsoever. All I see is a bunch of lunkheads bashing into each other and stopping for breath every ten seconds while ruining a lawn. However, common sense tells me that there must be more to it than that, otherwise it wouldn’t be so popular. That’s why I’ve never started a thread saying what a waste of time American football is. I’m aware that I don’t know enough about the sport to say with any authority that it lacks skill.

That’s where you are with football right now.

No such ratio exists. It seems you consider any movement that doesn’t end in a goal to be a screw-up. In fact, the main reason that players don’t score more often is that the defenders are good at their job.

This is ridiculous, and you’d know this if you ever actually played football at any sort of competitive level. Pele could run 100 meters in 10.6 seconds. Maradona could take the ball round an entire team without breaking a sweat. I’d put the VO2 MAX of an international striker up against that of a Linebacker any day of the week.

It does not. It yields exactly 859 results. If you search the two words without quotes, you get 1.3 million, but that is almost all pages where the two occur separately. Only the first two pages of results think they are being clever.

I forgot to mention one thing:

Football/soccer is the most “unpredictable” of the big sports, meaning it is the sport where the favorite wins least often. That would indicate that chance plays a bigger role. That should count as a positive as far as excitement goes but could also be an argument for their being less skill involved.

Preach it, Rysdad.

Soccer is boring. Watching this game on television is like watching ants chase a speck of white dust.

My condolences.

Yeah, right. Just because the world likes a game that can be played by stumbling, inept buffoons doesn’t mkake it good. Or a sport.

Good thing you don’t insist, because, gee, then I’d have to laugh at ya.

One. One defender. And he was ahead of him. Ane he missed by a country mile.

Pitiful.

This is where you’re totally wrong. You don’t get it. Almost all soccer games totally suck. You say these guys are so damned athletic…they run maybe fifty feet and launch a kick to who-knows-where, then they stand around in the hopes that some other idiot happens to punt a ball in their direction that, like as not, the other team will end up with.
This is what the best teams in the world have to offer? Go back home and play in your back yards.

Hm. At least they manage to score more than two-and-a-half fucking points in an hour and a half.

Give it up. Your position is indefensible. “Heat death of the universe.” Heh. Defines soccer pretty well.

Really? A game that requires speed, strength, strategy, stamina, physical contact, intelligence and teamwork? You don’t see it?

All the things that soccer lacks?

It figures. That toughest thing about soccer are the idiot hooligans that get into fights over which team is less pussified.

“Put a dress on,” as Terry Bradshaw would say.

Thank God.

Soccer is really growing on me, and I enjoyed that game today between Spain and Paraguay. I am actually beginning to see plays develop, which was something I could never do before. When they called encroachment on that penalty kick, I wondered if that was something that was called strictly (it felt picky), and sure enough, a couple of minutes later the commentator says it’s not often called. I assumed that offside was from the moment of the pass, otherwise breakaways wouldn’t occur too often. So, I’m starting to detect some of the nuances. It seems like a very skillful game, played by great athletes. I love sports in general, and I like having another one in the rotation.

I now watch entire soccer games, and I’m interested. Prior to this year, I have watched about 20 minutes of soccer, total, in my entire life. And the “soccer sucks” stuff gets tired every time it’s trotted out. I really don’t get the point. Just don’t watch it. That was my strategy for 49 years, and it seemed to work like a charm.

This statement alone displays how little you know about real football. But I won’t hold it against you.

Kinda funny, though.

Heh.

Linebacker vs soccer player…why do you think there aren’t more soccer players in the NFL other than kickers?

Think about it.

And don’t even get me started on the officiating…

I need to clear something up.

I have watched more than one soccer game. I’ve given it a chance. I’ve even paid to see a professional soccer game

The result of that game was a 0-0 tie.

Don’t tell me my views are based on only one game. It’s based on every fucking mind-numbing ‘game’ I’ve ever seen.

Soccer is a soporific.

If I were you, I wouldn’t watch it. No charge for the advice, carry on!

No dude, you couldn’t. You may think you could, and that is great if it helps you sleep at night, but you really couldn’t.

I plan to heed this advice from now on.

Just, please, let them televise real sports in sports bars.

It just aggravates me that someone equates soccer with a sport of skill. It isn’t. It’s dumb luck compounded with ineptitude.

I guess it just proves that you can fool some of the people most of the time.

Now, get it off the TV and put on a real sport. Hell, badminton will do. Beer pong would do.

deep breath

Go ahead. Watch your soccer. Just do it on your own time.

Yes, I could. Of course I could. The goalie might block it, but at least I could kick it AT the misbegotten goal.

Who couldn’t do that? Jesus.

You, that’s who couldn’t. Not under the same circumstances as a World Cup soccer match. You wouldn’t even have the chance to kick the ball. The defender would take it away from you every time before you even were close to the goal. You are far too slow, have no ball handling skills and absolutely no idea what you are doing out there.

I get that you don’t like soccer. That’s fine. I think Nascar and golf are beyond stupid, but I get that other people like them and if they go to bars to watch it, then a bar owner would be a fool not to show it. I just go drink somewhere else. You should too.

Soccer is starting to grow on me, but I still can’t completely handle it. I usually DVR the games then have someone else look up the final score. If all the scoring was in one individual half, I just watch that half. If not, I watch both then tell them to tell me when the final score was reached. Doesn’t ruin the suspense since, “We’re at 87’ and this STILL isn’t the final score?!?!?! SOMETHING’S ABOUT TO HAPPEN!”

Can really save some time…

Me: Did anybody score in the first half?
Them: No.
Me: Second half?
Them: No
Me: :: Delete ::