# Resolved - Liberal Men are Douchebag Weeinies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348 "2013-01-16T02:34:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/41 "2013-01-16T05:47:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Conservatives of both genders are a collection of fanatics, fools, liars, parasites, criminals, thugs, psychopaths, plutocrats, and pretty much every other variety of scum you can think of. Vermin; the moral and intellectual bottom of the barrel of humanity. And they tend to define good as evil, and evil as good. And they describe as “liberal” the vast majority of humanity; you are a “liberal” unless you belong to their rabid fringe group.
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> So I wouldn’t especially worry about the worthiness of a liberal man until conservatives expressed honest admiration of him.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> “Manly” by whose definition anyway? For a conservative, I’d expect their typical definition of “manly” to be “ignorant, semiliterate, psychopathic, wife beating, child abusing, gay bashing rapist”.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s not “hyperbolic absurdity”; American conservatives are a rabidly irrational fringe moment, getting crazier and nastier all the time. Pretending that they aren’t won’t make them any nicer or more rational.
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> And this thread opened with a ridiculous insult to liberals, so let’s not pretend that there was ever any politeness or decorum for me to violate.

Mark the date. For once, we have a Dope thread in which **Der Trihs** is always and entirely right, and his hyperbole is not hyperbole.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/42 "2013-01-16T05:58:22Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> This douchebag weenie is better armed than Nicaragua. Make of that what you will.

That Nicaragua has a terrible, terrible military.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/43 "2013-01-16T06:07:39Z")

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If ever there was a Pit thread that’s bound to go on for pages, this is it!

PS: Am I the only one who read the OP as sarcastic and is surprised to see people who think he was really endorsing those statements?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/44 "2013-01-16T06:11:57Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> If ever there was a Pit thread that’s bound to go on for pages, this is it!
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> PS: Am I the only one who read the OP as sarcastic and is surprised to see people who think he was really endorsing those statements?

I just skimmed the original thread, but so far as I can tell its a sarcastic response to **Senor Beef’s** sarcastic response to his interlocutors sarcasm.

Its possible the Dope may need to cut down on sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/45 "2013-01-16T06:14:13Z")

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This OP reads like something a douchebag weenie would say.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/46 "2013-01-16T06:17:26Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> The concept of beta males was invented by scientists, who tend to be pretty beta. No shame.

The concept of alphas &c in wolves may have been developed by scientists, but they haven’t used them in a good long while, since discovering that the concept was wrong.

The classifications are now used only by douchebag PUAs and other people invested in a bizarre and artificial concept of manliness.

(Or fanfic writers who want to write really weird noncon stories.)

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/47 "2013-01-16T06:18:58Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Mark the date. For once, we have a Dope thread in which **Der Trihs** is always and entirely right, and his hyperbole is not hyperbole.

You’re a fuckwit. So is he.

That said, it is utterly ridiculous to measure the worth of a person by their political affiliation. I have friends–good friends—all across the political spectrum. Politics is just one aspect of a personality. One of my favorite memories from law school was lunch with a group we laughing called “The Round Table”. The group featured me on the right, another guy that was in the middle, and a third that was a card-carrying left-winger. We debated the issues of the day with vigor, rarely reaching anything approaching a consensus. We also studied together, drank together, chased women together, and otherwise interacted in the way friends do.

Hell..my wife, aka The Druidess, is liberal. Her vote cancelled mine in the last presidential election.

I’ve co-counseled a number of complex cases with a guy that is the stereotypical New York liberal at least as much as I’m the stereotypical Southern conservative, if not more so. I suspect his vote has cancelled mine in every election I’ve been old enough to vote in. Dude is very smart, and a damn fine lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/48 "2013-01-16T06:23:25Z")

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Several studies have shown that conservatives have more nightmares than liberals. About 3 times as many.

So being a conservative means you’re a scardy cat.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/49 "2013-01-16T06:25:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> This douchebag weenie is better armed than Nicaragua. Make of that what you will.

How do you rate when compared with Salvadoran gangs?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/50 "2013-01-16T06:26:07Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> If ever there was a Pit thread that’s bound to go on for pages, this is it!
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> PS: Am I the only one who read the OP as sarcastic and is surprised to see people who think he was really endorsing those statements?

Oh, I got the sarcasm, which is why I replied to the quote I did - obviously this is about **SenorBeef** ’s douchebaggery.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/51 "2013-01-16T06:37:44Z")

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I challenge SenorBeef to go to any major American city, head downtown, somewhere between MLK and Malcom X streets, round up a bunch of Obama voters, and call them liberal douchebags.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/52 "2013-01-16T06:38:51Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Conservatives are manlierT

Manly men are ridiculous creatures with short tempers, short attention spans, low creativity, no patience, no refinement, lousy lovers, bad judgment, violent, unimaginitive, stultified, emotionally infantile, and it’s only a technicality that they aren’t to be considered dumb as a box of rocks. There’s intelligence there, of a sort, but it’s mostly not available in any meaningful sense. They can do some useful things when properly organized and channelled but not in any kind of unique or irreplaceable sense.  
I’m over here with the girlz. Amongst them, akin to them, admiring of them and their characteristics, values, priorities, accomplishments, and, umm, curvy shapes and yummy textures and stuff. They are wise and wonderful and cute and slinky and they think and figure stuff out and are excellent for conversations.

I am not among the manly men. Do not want to be among the manly men. What are they good for, besides for to ridicule and make jokes about?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/53 "2013-01-16T06:41:25Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Oh, I got the sarcasm, which is why I replied to the quote I did - obviously this is about **SenorBeef** ’s douchebaggery.

Well, maybe not you, but a few other people were apparently whooshed.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/54 "2013-01-16T11:53:59Z")

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Going around evaluating the manliness of all the men you meet somehow doesn’t seem very manly.

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/55 "2013-01-16T14:17:50Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Well, maybe not you, but a few other people were apparently whooshed.

When I’m provided with a tailor-made opportunity to bitch about a colony of bigoted vagina-bothering Nugents, I’ll take it. Whoosh-be-damned.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/56 "2013-01-16T14:24:49Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> If ever there was a Pit thread that’s bound to go on for pages, this is it!

Whaaaat? There hasn’t been a single mention of Joe Paterno or paper towel tubes that I can see.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/57 "2013-01-16T14:26:30Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I am not among the manly men. Do not want to be among the manly men. What are they good for, besides for to ridicule and make jokes about?

I seem to recall something about “winding the clocks”, but I’m pretty sure no one needs to do that any more.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/58 "2013-01-16T14:31:06Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Hm. Pass me the quiche; we were discussing Milton, and sipping limeade. And I can also integrate xe^x.

Meh. Who can’t? Integration by parts, set u=x, and point out that malt does more than Milton can, to justify God’s ways to man.

But I can pause before subtracting to shoot a charging grizzly with a .30-06. Let’s see a liberal do THAT.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/59 "2013-01-16T14:44:19Z")

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Look, I may be a douchebag and a weenie, but I’m _definitely_ not … wait, what was the other one?

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-liberal-men-are-douchebag-weeinies/647348/60 "2013-01-16T14:56:41Z")

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I like hunting, but I also like musicals.

I can butcher a hog, and can also knit.

I’m fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.

And now I don’t know where I fit on the (manly\<------------------\>douchebag weenie) continuum! 😕

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