# Resolved: Shot From Guns is a whiner. Here's a pit thread to argue the question... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244 "2010-11-10T23:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/61 "2010-11-11T19:18:11Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > One of us has been a well liked, successful moderator in a very large, active community and is therefore reasonably qualified to make statements about what is good or bad moderation. Hint: it’s not you. Actually… **Frank** was a mod here. Dunno about well liked or successful. I didn’t like him, and his moderation was a large part of the reason I left this place for a long time. Came back when he and **Giraffe** were no longer mods. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/62 "2010-11-11T19:24:44Z")
_giggles_ Yay, she acknowledged me! And my tits! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/63 "2010-11-11T19:25:58Z")
Wait, someone named **Wile E** is not a dude? With tits? Chuck Jones didn’t see that coming. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/64 "2010-11-11T19:42:36Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > In fairness, you have given no indication that you are kinky for middle-aged conservative males. That would be because I’m not. But hey, that doesn’t mean I can string you along for a few nice dinners and maybe some bling. > [@Crotalus](#): > > So mere participants in a message board who have never been moderators aren’t qualified? Certainly, they’re also qualified. I’m simply pointing out that my opinions, being backed up with concrete experience, aren’t idiotic. > [@bucketybuck](#): > > Anyway, your first pitting is so cloyingly sweet I sorta feel sorry for you. This isn’t my first Pitting. > [@Oakminster](#): > > Actually… **Frank** was a mod here. Ignorance fought, then. Sorry, **Frank**. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/65 "2010-11-11T19:48:55Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Certainly, they’re also qualified. I’m simply pointing out that my opinions, being backed up with concrete experience, aren’t idiotic. Poor logic. Idiocy and experience have no correlation. You can have lots of experience and still be an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/66 "2010-11-11T19:53:10Z")
She does do that post sniping thing though; in extreme cases that can be a little annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/67 "2010-11-11T19:55:20Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Came back when he and **Giraffe** were no longer mods. I was confused at first as to why you dropped my name in there, since I don’t remember us ever really tangling back when I was a mod. But then I remembered the [fuckwit incident](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8420818&postcount=74). FWIW, I was sorry your feelings got so hurt there – I always liked you as a poster, and never wanted you to leave. Just, you know, stop with the dumb joke already. Anyway, back to the Pitting and/or sex party of **Shot from Guns** (who I personally think is awesome, btw). ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/68 "2010-11-11T19:58:39Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Poor logic. Idiocy and experience have no correlation. You can have lots of experience and still be an idiot. And yet, if the experience was successful, that does suggest lack of idiocy. Really, I don’t think **Guns** is all that idiotic in ATMB. There are a lot of flaws with moderation here. Where most people just shrug and get on with life, **Guns** actively pursues those flaws. The problem most people have with **Guns** is that they get too defensive. While, yes, her attitude doesn’t help in conducting straightforward civil conversation, people reflexively push back against her when she pushes at them, and horn-locking commences. I’m not saying the only way to deal with **Guns** is to say “Yes, you’re totally right,” but instead you need to be willing and able to examine your own position. If it’s coherent and consistent, you _can_ argue her down and convince her you’re right. If it’s flawed and you refuse to examine those flaws, she will happily butt heads with you until you acknowledge them or she’s forcibly put down. My kind of woman, really. ETA: If there is a flaw to be found in her behavior, it’s that she sometimes just doesn’t know when to let something go. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/69 "2010-11-11T20:03:07Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I was confused at first as to why you dropped my name in there, since I don’t remember us ever really tangling back when I was a mod. But then I remembered the [fuckwit incident](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8420818&postcount=74). FWIW, I was sorry your feelings got so hurt there – I always liked you as a poster, and never wanted you to leave. Just, you know, stop with the dumb joke already. Meh. Water under the bridge now. I accidentally offended/ran off a few posters at the place I used to mod, too. Shit happens. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/70 "2010-11-11T20:11:40Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. Water under the bridge now. I accidentally offended/ran off a few posters at the place I used to mod, too. Shit happens. It does at that. Cool. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/71 "2010-11-11T20:21:36Z")
I admire her because 99%\* of the posters seem to know she’s a she and she didn’t even have to put “not a dude” in her location. \*Made up statistic based on the one poster here that didn’t know she was a she even though everyone else was referring to her as a her/she. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/72 "2010-11-11T20:26:03Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > She does do that post sniping thing though What’s that then? > [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > in extreme cases I’ve always thought her moderate. > [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > that can be a little annoying. Rubbish! ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/73 "2010-11-11T20:32:16Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I admire her because 99%\* of the posters seem to know she’s a she and she didn’t even have to put “not a dude” in her location. If you showed your ass in an Annie Bracket (is that who it was?) halloween outfit, along with the NSFW shower pics in the SD gallery, you wouldn’t need the “not a dude” either. ~wants to see some Wile E. ass~ ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/74 "2010-11-11T20:40:32Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > If you showed your ass in an Annie Bracket (is that who it was?) halloween outfit, along with the NSFW shower pics in the SD gallery, you wouldn’t need the “not a dude” either. > ~wants to see some Wile E. ass~ No you don’t, trust me. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/75 "2010-11-11T20:43:10Z")
I think **Shot** is a peach. Smart. Crabby. Good sense of humour. She’s sort of anti-kid, but, eh, I was too until I had one of my own. In fact I still find pretty well all of them a bit of a trial other than mine. Who knew that old canard would turn out to be true. Oh yah - and NOT whiney. What an odd thing to accuse her of. Grade A Beyotch perhaps, but whiner, no. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/76 "2010-11-11T20:58:59Z")
This is the weirdest pitting evah. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/77 "2010-11-11T21:24:14Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Poor logic. Idiocy and experience have no correlation. You can have lots of experience and still be an idiot. \*\*BT \*\*made the point I was going to respond with pretty well, so just [go read his post again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13131295#post13131295). > [@Giraffe](#): > > But then I remembered the [fuckwit incident](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8420818&postcount=74). I would not go see The Fuckwit Incident. Or maybe I would. Okay, I \*would \*go see The Fuckwit Incident if they sounded like a combination of Poster Children and The Jesus Lizard. > [@Bosstone](#): > > If there is a flaw to be found in her behavior, it’s that she sometimes just doesn’t know when to let something go. Yes I do. I totally do. You take that back. > [@Wile\_E](#): > > I admire her because 99%\* of the posters seem to know she’s a she and she didn’t even have to put “not a dude” in her location. To be fair, this is part of an ongoing campaign on my part of politely correcting people whenever they misgender me. Although enough people know I’m a woman now that sometimes they’ll beat me to it. > [@the lone cashew](#): > > Annie Bracket (is that who it was?) Bingo! And brownie points for remembering the obscure horror film character. > [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > She’s sort of anti-kid, but, eh, I was too until I had one of my own. I’m not anti-kid, per se. I’m anti-poorly raised child. Really, I’m anti-bad parents. But just because I don’t \*blame \*the kids for being poorly raised doesn’t mean I want to be around them. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/78 "2010-11-11T21:25:47Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Although enough people know I’m a woman now that sometimes they’ll **beat me to it**. Fun fact: Reverse the pronouns and it’s still true. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/79 "2010-11-11T21:30:16Z")
Well played, sir, well played. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244/80 "2010-11-11T21:57:21Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > If you showed your ass in an Annie Bracket (is that who it was?) halloween outfit, **along with the NSFW shower pics in the SD gallery** , you wouldn’t need the “not a dude” either. > ~wants to see some Wile E. ass~ OK, I’ll admit, it made me go look. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-shot-from-guns-is-a-whiner-heres-a-pit-thread-to-argue-the-question/560244.md?page=5)