# Resolved: The US will have to fire almost all Law Enforcement personnel **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 26, 2025, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527 "2025-04-26T07:11:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/61 "2025-05-03T20:16:00Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, becuase THERE IS NO SUCH **TRAINING.**. It certainly occurs, yes, but it is not something that the police are trained in. The way that your co-workers respond to how you act on the job is by far the largest component of training, much more significant than when your boss makes you watch a video online and answer a multiple-choice question at the end with unlimited attempts allowed. When other officers stand by one accused of misbehavior, they are training the accused, and all other police officers, that it’s OK to behave that way. ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/62 "2025-05-04T00:19:07Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > The enforcement class has always been made up of people who enjoy exercising power over others and people who feel a duty to their community or country (and there are those who fall into both categories). The issue is that now, agencies are being remade in MAGA’s image. There will probably be residual even if a Democrat somehow regains the WH. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/63 "2025-05-04T19:41:27Z")
> [@natureboy](#): > > The issue is that now, agencies are being remade in MAGA’s image. There will probably be residual even if a Democrat somehow regains the WH. I dont see much new hiring going on. Once the top brass are eased out, there shouldn’t be a problem- at least as it is now. Mass new hires could indeed cause the problems some here foresee. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/64 "2025-05-04T21:03:41Z")
People who want to be law enforcement are already very prone to MAGA. It’s not a surprise that the police are heavy Trump supporters. It’s like being surprised that lawyers are argumentative. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/65 "2025-05-04T22:19:30Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > Yes, becuase THERE IS NO SUCH **TRAINING.**. It certainly occurs, yes, but it is not something that the police are trained in. > > The way that your co-workers respond to how you act on the job is by far the largest component of training Yeah, come on **DrDeth** , it is gratuitously literalist to ignore the context of what was meant: that regardless of any formal curriculum, what LEOs are perceived to _learn by example_ is the rule of the Blue Wall and of your loyalty being to your colleagues first second and last. > [@natureboy](#): > > The issue is that now, agencies are being remade in MAGA’s image. Now being remade? Most those people at CBP and ICE and various other LEAs that are today so readily … or is it _enthusiastically_? … willing to apply maximum intimidation and questionably constitutional handling of those they intervene, were at their jobs already two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527/66 "2025-05-09T17:03:07Z")
Today, during my walking tour of Tbilisi, Georgia, the guide mentioned that, in the aftermath of the 2003 Rose Revolution, **all of the police were dismissed**. This was because the police were regularly extorting civilians at traffic stops. “In 2004 the Georgian [Ministry of Internal Affairs] dismissed 30,000 employees – half of them in a single day… The entire traffic patrol division was disbanded. For weeks Georgia had no traffic cops at all.” > **[How Georgia Abolished its Police | The Unravel](https://theunravel.com.au/the-country-that-abolished-its-police)** > > A short history of the Rose Revolution and one of the most ambitious anti-corruption programs ever undertaken. I point this out as the exception that proves the rule. It is, to say the least, an extreme step. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-us-will-have-to-fire-almost-all-law-enforcement-personnel/1017527.md?page=3)