# Resolved, the West will Win the GWoT

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 18, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826 "2011-04-18T13:21:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/243 "2011-04-22T14:42:10Z")

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Errm that link goes to CNN, not the poll.

I would like to see the details of that poll, not some vague allusion to a poll from an opinion site like CNN.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/244 "2011-04-22T15:27:08Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Nonsense. Our side is no less murderous and tyrannical than the other side.
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> No, they started better off, and America was less corrupt.

After decades of Japanese colonialism, Korea was in pretty bad shape. When you look at the difference between North korea and South korea, its pretty easy to see the effects of American intervention in the Korean War.

America is the most powerful force for good in teh world today. Sure its not PURE good but we god a lot more good than harm in the aggregate.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/245 "2011-04-22T15:33:32Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> America is the most powerful force for good in teh world today. Sure its not PURE good but we god a lot more good than harm in the aggregate.

You’ve just got a better propaganda machine

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**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/246 "2011-04-22T16:32:45Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> You’ve just got a better propaganda machine

There are many places the world over currently benefiting long term from judicious application of the American war machine.

Time spent learning history would be more productive than parroting dogma.

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**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/247 "2011-04-22T16:57:52Z")

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Yes, Nadir, it would be nice if you would learn some proper history and stop parroting boring, hackneyed dogma.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/248 "2011-04-22T18:07:33Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> America is the most powerful force for good in teh world today. Sure its not PURE good but we god a lot more good than harm in the aggregate.

It’s no more a force for good than the Soviet Union was. It doesn’t matter to someone in a torture chamber if they are being tortured by good American-backed authoritarians or evil communist backed totalitarians. America is a plague upon the Earth, wantonly exploitative and destructive, promoting tyranny and injustice.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/249 "2011-04-22T19:15:42Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> The situation in Africa is rather different. First off, they have not allowed their territory to be used to attack the West.

So, you wouldn’t feel the need to spend 50 years improving the human rights situation in Afghanistan if they hadn’t been tied to 9-11. Hmm, that seems, how should I put it? Here, let’s have someone else help out:

> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> No, not mean, just self-absorbed. The sort who buy iPods made by child labor. The sort who would not lift a finger to help someone else. Not mean. Just uncaring.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-the-west-will-win-the-gwot/578826/250 "2011-04-23T02:05:12Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> Yes, Nadir, it would be nice if you would learn some proper history and stop parroting boring, hackneyed dogma.

Then offer some proper evidence.

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