# RESOLVED: Using the term "democrat party" should be a bannable offense

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174>\
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**Created:** [September 9, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174 "2020-09-09T14:50:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/82 "2020-09-10T20:05:55Z")

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Well, then, as i asked before: **What is your point?**

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/83 "2020-09-10T20:16:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> To all those that make the “Gee, I had _no idea_ you find this derogatory!” claim: Now that you have been informed will you stop using the term? I don’t think anyone has said anything akin to this in this thread yet.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Of course it’s not an excuse after it’s explained. I’m now careful not to abbreviate the word in that fashion. What I’m saying, yet again, is that not everybody’s had the explanation.

hmmm. Discobot says I can’t allow my earlier post to speak for itself on its own.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/84 "2020-09-10T20:22:27Z")

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I meant those who have posted in this thread(and others on this subject), but I appreciate what you did in this case.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/85 "2020-09-10T20:26:51Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I meant those who have posted in this thread

???

The post I quoted was made in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/86 "2020-09-10T20:32:13Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> ???
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> The post I quoted was made in this thread

Clarification, Part 2: I meant those that claimed _current_ ignorance in this thread, not those that, sometime in the past, corrected the error. Are there people _in this thread_ that have claimed to be _currently_ ignorant of what the fuss is all about and, when informed of what the fuss is all about, said that they will in the future avoid the term “democrat party”?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/87 "2020-09-10T21:07:19Z")

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[Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)SDSAB

The person who uses the phrase “Democrat Party” (capitalized or not) at once reveals himself to be an idiot. That’s punishment enough.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yes, same with Teabagger party, Amerika, Sheeple, etc.

I dunno. There’s something about “truth being an absolute defense” that kinda resonates with me…

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/88 "2020-09-10T21:19:44Z")

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I am on board with disrespectful names, by the way. For example: Donald Trump, who wouldn’t know respect if it paid off his mistress, in his current job called certain federal judges “so-called judges”. He is, as a result, the so-called president until he goes away.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/89 "2020-09-10T22:06:58Z")

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I suspect the reason it initially caught on was due to a reluctance to allocate the quality of “democratic” - a widely shared and admired value - to the Democratic party.

Of course, once it became apparent that it annoyed people, some people would do it for that reason too.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/90 "2020-09-10T22:23:43Z")

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I am a Democrat, which makes me a member of the Democratic party. As someone else has said, use of the term “Democrat party” is a good asshole alarm. But it goes deeper than that. They do it knowing that either you’ll let it go, in which case you look weak. Or you correct it, in which case you look petty. I’ll look petty, thank you.

I’ve also constructed a “Democrat Party” for amusements sake. They want to take your guns and give them to gay Muslims. You put up the “fun-house mirror” and I’ll point out how ridiculous the reflection looks.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/91 "2020-09-10T22:47:04Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I dunno. There’s something about “truth being an absolute defense” that kinda resonates with me…

The Latin phrase (and legal term), “Res ipsa louquitur” may have relevance here. The Latin translates to, “The thing speaks for itself.”

It really is a pretty powerful argument 😉

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/92 "2020-09-10T22:48:58Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> I am a Democrat, which makes me a member of the Democratic party. As someone else has said, use of the term “Democrat party” is a good asshole alarm. But it goes deeper than that. They do it knowing that either you’ll let it go, in which case you look weak. Or you correct it, in which case you look petty. I’ll look petty, thank you.

Great explanation, and I agree.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/93 "2020-09-11T00:04:53Z")

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Oh well. Democrat party is far far less offensive than the language directed at folks to the right of lenin.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/94 "2020-09-11T00:10:05Z")

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Then start a thread about it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/95 "2020-09-11T00:13:42Z")

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And calling Republicans Magats which is obviously homonymic with fly larva is not meant to annoy or offend? Hmmm. I am not sure we are supposed to be isolated from offense while reading and if we are I’m not sure if only part of the audience is supposed I have that privilege.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/96 "2020-09-11T00:19:02Z")

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That should also be against the rules outside the Pit.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/97 "2020-09-11T00:20:06Z")

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So as long as the term is coming from prominent national level Republicans, I have little sympathy for Republicans in general who don’t like that messege boarders hurl invective.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/98 "2020-09-11T00:28:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And calling Republicans Magats which is obviously homonymic with fly larva is not meant to annoy or offend?

Of course it is meant to annoy and offend, if said directly to a Trump supporter.\* No one in this thread has claimed differently, so what is your point? If this thread were full of people claiming we can’t allow “democrat party” but we should allow “Magat,” that would be hypocritical. But that’s not what everyone is saying.

\*(It could also just be to let off steam in the company of people who are already known to be in agreement, which is probably the case with most SDMB posts).

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/99 "2020-09-11T00:38:10Z")

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Getting worked up over something so arbitrary reminds of all the hullabaloo over “Wuhan virus” when the social justice warriors suddenly decided it was “racist”

[https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/12/media\_called\_coronavirus\_wuhan\_or\_chinese\_coronavirus\_dozens\_of\_times.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/12/media_called_coronavirus_wuhan_or_chinese_coronavirus_dozens_of_times.html)

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/100 "2020-09-11T00:51:23Z")

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In all honesty, before I read this thread, if I saw someone refer to the “Democrat Party” I would have just assumed they were to sloppy or lazy to write out “Democratic”. I didn’t realize some people do it deliberately for political reasons.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-using-the-term-democrat-party-should-be-a-bannable-offense/920174/101 "2020-09-11T02:11:32Z")

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I think one of the questions we (we being anyone that would identify as a democrat) need to ask ourselves is, regardless of the intention of the speaker, are we actually offended by it? I’m not. If you’re not who cares.

As an example, Shodan has explicitly stated that if he leaves out his typical ‘regards, shodan’ signature, it’s akin to saying ‘fuck you’ (or something like that, he mentioned it a long time ago). If his lack of that sign off doesn’t bother you, should it really be modded? Not only does it seem pointless, it also tells the speaker about some minor thing they can offend you with. It’s like handing them a dog whistle.

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