# respectcopyright.org... kiss my furry white ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2004, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517 "2004-01-03T20:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/161 "2012-09-21T00:55:54Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > The MPAA also has a point though - it is still theft by any reasonable definition. No it isn’t, since any reasonable definition of theft requires harm, which you admit may not have been done. It’s only theft if there’s lost revenue, since the only other thing stealing removes is your ability to use or sell your product. Also, it’s fairly easy to get around the problem with ISPs. For one, you can use a smaller ISP (as I do). For another, you can use a $5 per month anonymous proxy. You can also use other software that attempts to hide you, but those above are pretty foolproof. I tell you this, not because I want you to break the law but because the system is rigged where you are guilty until proven innocent. You can’t even appeal any warnings that don’t have penalties. It’s essentially the first step in corporations taking over the governments role and thus taking away your freedoms. I’ve a feeling that mere use of bittorrent is going to be used as evidence you did something illegal, as it’s so easy to detect, unlike actually monitoring content to see if its copyrighted. Even if you don’t do anything wrong, I think it’s prudent to take precautions like those above. What bugs me more than anything is how this has been in the news forever, with all the objections, yet there’s no massive influx of people moving to previously smaller ISPs. It’s like people actually believe this will only be used for piracy, even when the DMCA notices haven’t been. You know, the same argument that shot down SOPA. It’s also a rather easy attack vector. If I know your IP, I can ping the problematic sites using it, and even though I won’t get a response, your IP will be on the logs. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/162 "2012-09-21T01:10:57Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Ooooh, an internet tough guy! > > Please tell me what you’d do if i said it to your face! > > Here, i’ll say it again: > > Moron. Funny how you seem to be the only person on the board who gets threatened like this. I wonder what the common element is. Addendum to the above: and getting your IP is as simple as getting you to click on an image link. ---
**Author:** ![brianbertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@brianbertz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianbertz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/163 "2012-09-21T01:38:47Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Hey, moron, when you’re giving someone an internet address, getting the exact address right is sort of important. > > Do you know how the internet works, or is the librarian doing the clicking for you while you jerk off? that insult was almost hurtful… almost. ur insults and trash talk is the equivalent of a 17 year old and thats giving you credit. my 3 year old kid can do better than that dude. hey you should go chat with dude from ny in person. sounds like it would be entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![brianbertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@brianbertz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianbertz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/164 "2012-09-21T01:41:21Z")
everybody do me a favor real quick that has nothing to do with this discussion. go to cmd and type in ping 50.28.81.254 -t -l and let it run for a couple hours. if everyone does that i will stop downloading movies illegally hows that sound?? ---
**Author:** ![brianbertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@brianbertz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianbertz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/165 "2012-09-21T01:49:20Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > The site is [http://www.respectcopyrights.org/](http://www.respectcopyrights.org/) > > It does exist, and we will probably hear more about it as most of the major US ISP’s quietly signed a deal with the MPAA that starting in July 2012 they are on the hook for sending warnings to their users if the MPAA reports them for illegal downloads. > > They got off to a late start but they are now doing it. Here is how it works: the MPAA scours file sharing and P2P sites and harvests the IP addresses of their users. They report those IPs to the appropriate ISP, who is now obligated to send a warning to the user with that IP. A second offense leads to a sterner warning and subsequent offenses lead to throttling the speed of their connection, forcing them to a redirect web page every time they try to load a page, and so on. > > So \*\*brianbertz \*\*got caught stealing movies, the MPAA reported him to his ISP, and his ISP sent him a warning email directing him to the above site for more information. He searched the web to gain a better understanding of the ramifications of this, and found this thread. > > While \*\*bringbertz \*\*seems to be kind of an asshat he does have a point - piracy doesn’t really make a big dent in theater attendance. It just adds to the numbers of people who have seen the film that would probably not have seen it otherwise. That still helps their sponsors, advertisers, product placements, etc. and the movie itself reach an even wider audience. Most people pay to see a movie in the theater because they want to see it in a theater and not because there is absolutely no other way they can view it. Movies producers won’t fold up and go out of business they will capitalize on that additional viewership with more blatant advertising and product placements and still rake in the same ticket sales they ever would have. > > The MPAA also has a point though - it is still theft by any reasonable definition. besides the asshat comment i think you are one of the few people in here capable of not acting like a dumbass after someone like me just states what happened. which for the record for everybody i didnt care to check when the last time someone actually commented on this thread was. but ya. my hats off to you for stating an intelligent and mature reply. you pretty much summed it up why i came here. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/166 "2012-09-21T02:13:42Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Funny how you seem to be the only person on the board who gets threatened like this. I wonder what the common element is. I am? Or is your fucking stupidity coloring your judgment again, you ignorant shut-in? Every time i think you can’t get any more pathetic, you manage to surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/167 "2012-09-21T02:36:13Z")
I think this discussion is going really well so far. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/168 "2012-09-21T03:14:07Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I think this discussion is going really well so far. Yes, I’d pay several dollars to watch this. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/169 "2012-09-21T03:23:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Funny how you seem to be the only person on the board who gets threatened like this. What am I? [Chopped liver](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15511907#post15511907)? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/170 "2012-09-21T03:36:08Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Yes, I’d pay several dollars to watch this. I wouldn’t. I’d just watch it for free. And that totally doesn’t disadvantage anyone 'cos I never would have watched it if it wasn’t free anyway. Honest. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/171 "2012-09-21T03:57:26Z")
> [@brianbertz](#): > > that insult was almost hurtful… almost. ur insults and trash talk is the equivalent of a 17 year old and thats giving you credit. my 3 year old kid can do better than that dude. hey you should go chat with dude from ny in person. sounds like it would be entertaining. Can your 3 year old use the shift key? ---
**Author:** ![brianbertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@brianbertz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianbertz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/172 "2012-09-21T13:25:21Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Can your 3 year old use the shift key? idk i dont let him on my computer. if ur implying that i dont have a uppercase letter at the start of each sentence i dont really care. this isnt school so it really doesnt matter how the fuck you say shit or wanna type shit on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![brianbertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@brianbertz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianbertz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/173 "2012-09-21T13:26:24Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I think this discussion is going really well so far. i like it… ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/174 "2012-09-21T13:41:31Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > It does exist, and we will probably hear more about it as most of the major US ISP’s quietly signed a deal with the MPAA that starting in July 2012 they are on the hook for sending warnings to their users if the MPAA reports them for illegal downloads. > > They got off to a late start but they are now doing it. Here is how it works: the MPAA scours file sharing and P2P sites and harvests the IP addresses of their users. They report those IPs to the appropriate ISP, who is now obligated to send a warning to the user with that IP. A second offense leads to a sterner warning and subsequent offenses lead to throttling the speed of their connection, forcing them to a redirect web page every time they try to load a page, and so on. Good. The blatant stealing shit because I can, and get away with it is becoming obscene. Pay for it ya bunch of dead beat thieves. ---
**Author:** ![OtisCampbellWasRight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@OtisCampbellWasRight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtisCampbellWasRight)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/175 "2012-09-21T13:41:36Z")
> [@brianbertz](#): > > idk i dont let him on my computer. if ur implying that i dont have a uppercase letter at the start of each sentence i dont really care. this isnt school so it really doesnt matter how the fuck you say shit or wanna type shit on the internet. I’ve got 3PM Sunday afternoon in the pool for this clowns banning. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/176 "2012-09-21T13:56:30Z")
I’ll take the under. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/177 "2012-09-21T14:19:14Z")
> [@brianbertz](#): > > well to me the cable example is different in the way you use it. the movies i download the person who did pay for either the dvd or to watch the movie is willingly uploading it for me and others to watch it. in my mind thats different than splitting a dudes cable without his knowledge or consent. i had my landlord who lived in an apartment below me and he ran a wire up to my apartment and i got free cable tv. with his permission. so thats just how i choose to view things and other people can believe what they want to believe is right and i wont bash anyone else for it. You’re awfully hostile about this. I’m not bashing you, I’m pointing out the flaws in your logic. If you can’t handle criticism of your arguments, you’re on the wrong forum. I was asking these questions because your reasoning is completely lax. By the logic you employ here, if you get the permission of someone else to use something, it’s okay for you to use it. Nevermind that the person who uploaded the content you downloaded did so against their legal agreement with the copyrights owner. So it’s okay to steal cable if the person whose cable your splitting knows about it, but not if they don’t, even though it costs them nothing in either case. But it’s okay to use the content provided by someone for free without their knowledge. You don’t see the logical breakdown here? > [@](#): > > if you dont think its right ok cool. big fucking deal. you are your own person and can think and do what you want. i wont feel like im any better as a person morally or whatever. so anyone who doesnt like how i rationalize how i do things. get a fucking life and get over it. worry about your own damn fucking life. im not you, you dont run my life and i dont run yours. i dont care about any of your lifes or decisions. Again with the hostility. I’m asking you to defend your moral stance and you come out with the cursing and acting like I’m pretending I’m morally superior, telling me to get a life. Really? You even admit here that you’re rationalizing here. Either defend your position or don’t, but this sort of reaction is just poor form. > [@](#): > > as for the morons who think they are tough on the computer and think im stupid. i scored in the top 95 percentile of my state tests all through grade school and high school. except for english. sorry it was like 91 percent. im sorry thats too stupid for you kids. you dont have to believe it cuz i know its true and dont give 2 shits cuz im most likely smarter than most of you. im no better but i am smarter. now im done with this dumb site. most of you are a damn joke. go talk shit to some people in real life. have fun. First of all, your scores on state standardized tests in grade school and high school have to do with your moral reasoning. There are plenty of extremely intelligent people who have terrible morals and plenty of average and less than average people who have nearly flawless morals. Second, claiming you scored 95% on standardized tests in high school isn’t going to impress anyone here, there are plenty of people here with advanced degrees, can articulate their points without simply saying they’re bad at English while still claiming to be 91st percentile, and are able to make cogent and logically solid arguments. Anyway, you’ve demonstrated you don’t have any real interest in an honest discussion of the topic since you responded to what I believe were fair questions with enormous amounts of hostility, personal attacks, red herrings, and all that stuff. So, best to you and all that, I have no interest in continuing. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/178 "2012-09-21T14:26:22Z")
> [@brianbertz](#): > > this isnt school so it really doesnt matter how the fuck you say shit or wanna type shit on the internet. That’s true, unless you want to be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/179 "2012-09-21T15:10:56Z")
yo guyz is has big problem with me tiping mie posts. Y can’tt youse ppl just worrie ab. imprtnt thing? ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respectcopyright-org-kiss-my-furry-white-ass/222517/180 "2012-09-21T15:12:33Z")
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