# Response to Loach

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 23, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111 "2019-08-23T15:35:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/21 "2019-08-23T17:50:45Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
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> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/22 "2019-08-23T17:52:31Z")

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“Bow before me and apologize, or I will take my ball and go home.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/23 "2019-08-23T17:56:37Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.

If only.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/24 "2019-08-23T18:00:18Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.

Point of order - there is a difference between trolling, and being a troll. Even non-trolls can receive warnings for trolling.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/25 "2019-08-23T18:03:45Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Dude, you sound really butt-hurt. Go calm down or something. I hear they make this thing called “television” which can divert your attention for approximately thirty consecutive months, after which it seems probably that this issue will have slipped from your mind.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/26 "2019-08-23T18:04:41Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Lol.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/27 "2019-08-23T18:07:03Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.

Unfortunately, that’s not what he said. And you quoted him:

> [@Loach](#):
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> You posted in a manner and on a subject that you knew would piss people off. You were delighted when you did piss people off.

Did you, according to Loach, knowingly post in a way that would piss people off? Yup. Were you, according to Loach, deliberately trying to piss people off? He didn’t say that.

Loach’s words were pretty well-chosen, actually.

If you decide not to post any more sneering supercilious condescension out of fear it’ll be interpreted as trolling, yikes, but I think the board will recover.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/28 "2019-08-23T18:08:03Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I hear they make this thing called “television” which can divert your attention for approximately thirty consecutive months,

:eek: and I thought _I_ was a binge-watcher.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/29 "2019-08-23T18:08:32Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Would you also like a lunch box?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/30 "2019-08-23T18:11:03Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> :eek: and I thought _I_ was a binge-watcher.

Do you know how long it takes to get through all 1,225 episodes of _Dark Shadows_?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/31 "2019-08-23T18:11:40Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> Would you also like a lunch box?

Too soon.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/32 "2019-08-23T18:13:37Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

If only.

Flouncing is still an option for you.

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**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/33 "2019-08-23T18:15:36Z")

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**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/34 "2019-08-23T18:17:50Z")

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/35 "2019-08-23T18:54:08Z")

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I agree with **Royal Nonesutch**.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/36 "2019-08-23T18:56:28Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Look, Scylla writes funny anecdotes.

That’s debatable. Let’s just say he writes anecdotes and leave it at that, shall we.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/37 "2019-08-23T19:11:17Z")

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You wrote a story. It didn’t go like you expected. So you tried to embrace the criticism and make like you were not only fine with it, but it’s something you seek out. That for sure puts it in the trolling neighborhood, if you take your reactions at face value. If we have to now try and figure out what’s straight up and what isn’t, you run the risk of being accused of trolling. Loach, reading all this, gave you the benefit of the doubt. The notion hat he somehow has to puzzle out your mindset for every sentence is ridiculous. The idea he owes you an apology is ridiculous. So very ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/38 "2019-08-23T19:21:24Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

No!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/39 "2019-08-23T19:40:01Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Clearly just joking again. Right?

Are you having fun yet? Do you need more attention or has this been good?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-loach/839111/40 "2019-08-23T19:55:45Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I wanted you to apologize for calling me a troll, and for saying that I was deliberately trying to piss people off.
> 
> By saying that, you have made it difficult for me to post in the future.
> 
> If you feel you correct and you stand by what you said then you should have banned me then.
> 
> Do it now, please.

Do what, now? Are you asking **Loach** to apologize to you, or to ban you?

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