# Response to "most muslims are peaceful": what's your opinion? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 5, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892 "2014-08-05T20:32:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/41 "2014-08-06T19:39:40Z")
In post 11, I posed a question: what should a hypothetical muslim family in the US be doing to oppose violence, that they they are not already doing by simply living out their lives? Anyone want to step up to the plate here? ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/42 "2014-08-06T19:44:49Z")
I have no doubt the majority of Muslims in the world are peaceful. However the reason they do not speak out is they understand exactly what violence may be visited upon them if they do. And, that is the problem. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/43 "2014-08-06T22:33:53Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > I have no doubt the majority of Muslims in the world are peaceful. > > However the reason they do not speak out is they understand exactly what violence may be visited upon them if they do. > > And, that is the problem. Quite a few of them do speak out around the world, it just isn’t reported here. If there is a group or individual that concerns you, many of them have web pages and facebook pages. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/44 "2014-08-06T23:24:45Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > How did I KNOW something like that would come up? > > Tell you what- find me ANY Christians who danced in the street when Eric Rudolph committed a terrorist act, and I’ll take you seriously. The pro-lifers wrote and sang songs praising him and wore T-shirts supporting him, does that count? Or is this medium-specific and it’s only dancing that counts and not singing? It’s OK to bomb people and sing, just don’t _dance._ ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/45 "2014-08-06T23:38:27Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The pro-lifers wrote and sang songs praising him and wore T-shirts supporting him, does that count? Or is this medium-specific and it’s only dancing that counts and not singing? It’s OK to bomb people and sing, just don’t _dance._ Please don’t expect to be taken seriously. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/46 "2014-08-06T23:55:14Z")
Good grief, the ignorance in this thread. Even in many terrorist-spawning areas, like Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, there aren’t many “terrorists” or “radical Islamists.” Syria has 22 million people, only [10,000 are part of ISIS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant). That’s 0.5% (I think). Small pockets in places like Yemen, and mostly freedom fighters, not 9/11ers. Muslims make up a mere 2.5% of terrorist attacks on US soil, [according to the Washington Post](http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html). The math is obvious, and all of this is easily findable. There are 2.6 million Muslims in the US. If 25% of them were even advocating armed insurrection, there would be nonstop coverage on CNN. If even 10%. If even 1%. Boko Haram has 300 fighters, Nigeria has a Muslim population of 80 million. Also, peaceful Muslim organizations are denouncing the violence in the world like, every five seconds. Again, a simple Google would show you that. Even in Gaza there are Palestinian leaders condemning Hamas. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/47 "2014-08-07T00:00:29Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > Even in Gaza there are Palestinian leaders condemning Hamas. Cite? (In Gaza, please. Not West Bank. And “leaders”, please, not an anonymous waiter some journalist met.). ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/48 "2014-08-07T00:09:44Z")
[Mahmoud Abbas](http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/07/15/331425360/israeli-gaza-conflict-squeezes-palestinian-leader-on-all-sides)? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/49 "2014-08-07T00:17:48Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > [Mahmoud Abbas](http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/07/15/331425360/israeli-gaza-conflict-squeezes-palestinian-leader-on-all-sides)? I will repeat. “In Gaza, please. Not West Bank.” You claimed those “leaders” were in Gaza. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/50 "2014-08-07T00:19:54Z")
Could you give me a cite on how the president of Gaza, part of the coalition government formed by **Hamas** and Fatah (another terrorist organization), does not count as a leader of Gaza? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/51 "2014-08-07T00:23:32Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > Could you give me a cite on how the president of Gaza, part of the coalition government formed by **Hamas** and Fatah (another terrorist organization), does not count as a leader of Gaza? LOL. You don’t know much about the region, do you? Question: when did Abbas last visit Gaza? ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/52 "2014-08-07T00:28:23Z")
April. I think we’re done with this one. Anyone else have objections to reality and math? Perhaps with the citation of a chain letter or Daily Mail link? More Heritage? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/53 "2014-08-07T00:32:38Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > April. I think we’re done with this one. Wrong. Last time Abbas visited Gaza I cannot find but was some time before 2007. Because this happened: [http://mepeace.org/video/hamas-members-execute-fatah](http://mepeace.org/video/hamas-members-execute-fatah) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/54 "2014-08-07T03:04:15Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > Good grief, the ignorance in this thread. > > Even in many terrorist-spawning areas, like Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, there aren’t many “terrorists” or “radical Islamists.” Syria has 22 million people, only [10,000 are part of ISIS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant). That’s 0.5% (I think). > > Small pockets in places like Yemen, and mostly freedom fighters, not 9/11ers. > > Muslims make up a mere 2.5% of terrorist attacks on US soil, [according to the Washington Post](http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html). > > The math is obvious, and all of this is easily findable. > > There are 2.6 million Muslims in the US. If 25% of them were even advocating armed insurrection, there would be nonstop coverage on CNN. If even 10%. If even 1%. Boko Haram has 300 fighters, Nigeria has a Muslim population of 80 million. > > Also, peaceful Muslim organizations are denouncing the violence in the world like, every five seconds. Again, a simple Google would show you that. Even in Gaza there are Palestinian leaders condemning Hamas. On the bright side, we now know that resentment of our foreign policy has nothing to do with terrorism. The percentages you cite are so tiny that “crazy” more than adequately explains them. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/55 "2014-08-07T03:47:35Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > On the bright side, we now know that resentment of our foreign policy has nothing to do with terrorism. The percentages you cite are so tiny that “crazy” more than adequately explains them. Logic ain’t your strong point, is it. (Old news, I know.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/56 "2014-08-07T04:29:38Z")
Does terrorism happen because Muslims are angry at our foreign policies? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/57 "2014-08-07T04:54:29Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Please don’t expect to be taken seriously. Ever. Why? Because I pointed out how wrong you were about the pro-lifers not celebrating Eric Rudolph? > [@adaher](#): > > Does terrorism happen because Muslims are angry at our foreign policies? Quite often, yes. And not just Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/58 "2014-08-07T08:34:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The pro-lifers wrote and sang songs praising him and wore T-shirts supporting him, does that count? Or is this medium-specific and it’s only dancing that counts and not singing? It’s OK to bomb people and sing, just don’t _dance._ Of course! Dancing is a sin - haven’t you seen that movie _Footloose_? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/59 "2014-08-07T09:30:16Z")
such threads are always so convincing to me of the idea that there are not many americans on the right who have unreasoning bigotry against muslims. The arguments sometimes are funny to me, they look exactly like the arguments of the salafine highlighting that american is at war everywhere in the world and bombs villages everywhere in the world, and has been since the second world war. the use of selectivity and twisted arguments are the same, of half truths. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892/60 "2014-08-07T12:09:43Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Quite often, yes. And not just Muslim. Okay, so when Islamic terrorism happens, it’s because we made Muslims angry, correct? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/response-to-most-muslims-are-peaceful-whats-your-opinion/694892.md?page=4)