# Rest in Peace, Jimmy Carter who turned 100 on October 1st. Amazing (has died, Dec. 29, 2024)

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**Created:** [July 27, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838 "2024-07-27T00:47:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> To be honest, I’m actually glad he passed while Joe Biden is still president, as Biden will ensure his funeral is treated properly (with a state funeral if that’s what Carter and his family wanted). I would not be sure of Trump doing so

I suppose Trump will attend. I don’t think Carter was the type of person, like McCain, to basically state outright that Trump should not be there.

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The first President to make it to 100.  
His legacy of post-Presidency activism is incredible. He helped a lot of people through the years.

It is kind of odd that our 2nd President, John Adams (age 90 and 247 days, passed on July 4th, 1826, same day in fact as Jefferson) was only passed in the 2000s. Now passed by Reagan, Ford, Bush & Carter.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> To be honest, I’m actually glad he passed while Joe Biden is still president, as Biden will ensure his funeral is treated properly (with a state funeral if that’s what Carter and his family wanted). I would not be sure of Trump doing so.

I’m sorry to say that this was my first thought, too.

He may not have achieved as much as President as he would have liked, but he certainly achieved an unmatchable post-Presidency. His example of selfless service may never be equaled.

ETA: @JRDelirious reminds us that the Congress must issue the invitation to have someone lie in state in the Capitol:

> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Lying in State in the Capitol is the purview of the House and Senate, not the President.

Though the President would naturally have an influence on how the death is treated–ordering flags at half-staff for some period of time (Trump would order a shorter time, probably) as well as other marks of respect.

This is the Proclamation Biden issued after the death of Rosalynn:

> **[A Proclamation on the Death of Rosalynn Carter | The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/11/21/a-proclamation-on-the-death-of-rosalynn-carter/#:~:text=As%20a%20mark%20of%20respect,upon%20all%20public%20buildings%20and)**
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>      Throughout her life as First Lady of Georgia and First Lady of the United States, Rosalynn Carter exemplified hope, warmth, and a

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/125 "2024-12-29T21:30:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > To be honest, I’m actually glad he passed while Joe Biden is still president, as Biden will ensure his funeral is treated properly (with a state funeral if that’s what Carter and his family wanted). I would not be sure of Trump doing so
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> I suppose Trump will attend. I don’t think Carter was the type of person, like McCain, to basically state outright that Trump should not be there.

I seem to remember reading a few years ago that Carter chose several years ago to NOT invite Trump to his funeral.

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Coverage from the AP and BBC, for those who don’t want to deal with the Post’s paywall:

> **[Jimmy Carter, the 39th US president, has died at 100](https://apnews.com/article/jimmy-carter-dies-18c198c20352c835bca3eec276020dd7)**
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> Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has died. He was 100 years old and had spent more than a year in hospice care.

> **[Jimmy Carter, former US president, dies aged 100](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ce98937nrqrt)**
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> The former Nobel Peace Prize winner went into home hospice care in February 2023.

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I seem to remember reading a few years ago that Carter chose several years ago to NOT invite Trump to his funeral. -

Wanna bet he’ll try to crash it?

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wanna bet he’ll try to crash it?

Yeah, he may want more material for ads for his fragrance.

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RIP. They say only the good die young. It’s not always true.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Though the President would naturally have an influence on how the death is treated–ordering flags at half-staff for some period of time (Trump would order a shorter time, probably) as well as other marks of respect.

Googling, the flag code says the period should be thirty days for a former president.

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Will the U.S. flag be at half-staff, given who and what Jimmy Carter was?

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Absolutely. Protocol is that the flag at Federal facilities is flown at half-staff for 30 days after the death of a current or former president. Many state and local governments and private individuals will probably follow the same protocol.

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> The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress.

[https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title4-section7&num=0&edition=prelim](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title4-section7&num=0&edition=prelim)

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And also, given who and what he was, there will be quite a few funerals and remembrances.

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I seem to remember reading a few years ago that Carter chose several years ago to NOT invite Trump to his funeral.

Huh. I know McCain felt that way. I thought Carter would advocate for bringing him.

It’s kind of like how Biden is going to Trump’s second inauguration. It’s just a thing you kind of do if you are president…and aren’t a loser like Trump.

Trump will go if he can, though. It’s a publicity moment for him.

He was at HW Bush’s, but he was also president at the time.

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Are there any truly major leaders from the Cold War who are still alive? In recent years, Gorbachev, George HW Bush, Schultz and Kissinger all died and now Carter.  
On further reflection James Baker certainly counts as a major leader and is still alive. Though Carter was the last head of government from either Cold War superpower.

While he failed to win re-election his governing legacy is enormous: the Camp David accords, transportation de-regulation, the appointment of Paul Volcker who ultimately beat inflation and through his Defense Secretary Harold Brown: the “second offset” which lead to the development of technologies like GPS and stealth airplanes.

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You were a very good person who did many good things. The world is a little darker without you.

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A genuinely Christian person in the best sense of exemplifying care for others. RIP to a great man.

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A life well lived.

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Bummer…kinda wish he made it to 2025. No particular reason. Just got so close.

I am unclear about his record as a president but I think it is clear he is the best ex-president we have ever had. He seemed a genuinely good guy.

He will be missed.

RIP

ETA: Any bets on whether Trump will go to the funeral?

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I was pissed when Iran released the American hostages just the hour past when Reagan was inaugurated, so it would be said it happened during his presidency. Carter should have had the credit.

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RIP to a good man.

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