# Rest in Peace, Jimmy Carter who turned 100 on October 1st. Amazing (has died, Dec. 29, 2024)

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**Created:** [July 27, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838 "2024-07-27T00:47:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/142 "2024-12-29T22:14:16Z")

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I’m so relieved to see this. And I mean that in a good way. I was worried he would die under Trump’s watch. Now he will get the kind of respect and honor he deserves.

Thank you for being such a wonderful, kind and decent human.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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> [@Baker](#):
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> I was pissed when Iran released the American hostages just the hour past when Reagan was inaugurated, so it would be said it happened during his presidency. Carter should have had the credit.

At the time, I had assumed it was one last jab against Carter by the Iranian government. However, there is now apparently some evidence that the Reagan campaign and the GOP had had engineered the delay, for their own benefit: first, delaying it until after the U.S. election, and then delaying it again until Reagan had taken office.

> **[Expert analyzes new account of GOP deal that used Iran hostage crisis for gain](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/expert-analyzes-new-account-of-gop-deal-that-used-iran-hostage-crisis-for-gain)**
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> The Iran hostage crisis consumed the last year of the Carter presidency, contributing to a perception of weakness. Saturday, a new allegation surfaced that Ronald Reagan's campaign worked to prevent the U.S. hostages from being freed before Election...

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/144 "2024-12-29T22:18:13Z")

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I thought that was old news.

That Reagan got away with it seems criminal to me.

Jimmy got the short end of that stick.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/145 "2024-12-29T22:18:44Z")

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So if that’s true I’m even more pissed.

RIP Jimmy. You are together again with Rosalynn.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/146 "2024-12-29T22:18:57Z")

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He knowingly sacrificed his presidency to keep us out of war. His post presidency was an example to the world. I am sorry for his family and friends, and I weep for our nation that rejected his legacy.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/147 "2024-12-29T22:20:38Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I’m so relieved to see this. And I mean that in a good way. I was worried he would die under Trump’s watch. Now he will get the kind of respect and honor he deserves.
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> Thank you for being such a wonderful, kind and decent human.

I never thought about it this way but I totally agree. At least he can have a professional, peaceful funeral.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/148 "2024-12-29T22:24:12Z")

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Well, he hung in there long enough to vote for Kamala Harris. Maybe he could have willed himself four more years. Or it could be _ **his** _ final jab at the president elect.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/149 "2024-12-29T22:36:08Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> RIP to a good man.

Amen

> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Now he will get the kind of respect and honor he deserves.

George W Bush, Billl Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden will certainly be in attendance.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/150 "2024-12-29T22:39:18Z")

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Stephen Bryer stepped down in 2022, the longest reaching impact of Carter that can be tied to him. He didn’t put him on the court, but put him in the position just before the supreme court.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/151 "2024-12-29T22:45:50Z")

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He really _didn’t_ spend much time “talking the talk.” He really just “walked the walk,” and he did it with grace, passion, elegance, and conviction.

A truly decent man – maybe too decent for the Presidency. Idunno’

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/152 "2024-12-29T22:51:47Z")

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Whatever his possible failings as a president might have been (and I don’t buy into that), he lived an honorable life of service to others. Talked the talk and walked the walk. Others should set such an example. You did good, sir, and you will be missed.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> …maybe too decent for the Presidency…

Sadly, I believe this is true.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/154 "2024-12-29T23:04:37Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Whatever his possible failings as a president might have been (and I don’t buy into that)

The AP article I linked to upthread contains a few quotes from him, about his time as president. Consistent with his own humility, he was fairly upfront about what he saw as his missteps and failings in the office:

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> Carter acknowledged in his 2020 “White House Diary” that he could be “micromanaging” and “excessively autocratic,” complicating dealings with Congress and the federal bureaucracy. He also turned a cold shoulder to Washington’s news media and lobbyists, not fully appreciating their influence on his political fortunes.
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> “It didn’t take us long to realize that the underestimation existed, but by that time we were not able to repair the mistake,” Carter told historians in 1982, suggesting that he had “an inherent incompatibility” with Washington insiders.

That said, he was dealt an awful hand with the state of the country: very high inflation and high interest rates, energy crises, unemployment, and a country that was still coming to grips with the events of Vietnam and Watergate. I think he did about as good a job as any president could have, given the circumstances.

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I’m not American and was too young during his presidency to get what he did or didn’t achieve, but I surely remember his humanitarian and pacifying efforts in the Yugoslavian war(s). He gained even more respect from me after I saw the documentary “Rock & Roll President”, which shows his deep ties and love to the music I also love. Being born in 1924, he was much too old even for the first generation of rock’n’rollers, and yet he had close ties with groups like the Allmann Brothers which he often invited to the White House.

> **[Jimmy Carter: Rock & Roll President (2020) ⭐ 7.5 | Documentary, History,...](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11804758/)**
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> 1h 35m

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> At the time, I had assumed it was one last jab against Carter by the Iranian government. However, there is now apparently some evidence that the Reagan campaign and the GOP had had engineered the delay, for their own benefit: first, delaying it until after the U.S. election, and then delaying it again until Reagan had taken office.

I read _Guests of the Ayatollah_, which made the claim that the hostage release was delayed by the radicals (who were not the government of Iran) just as one final “fuck you” to Carter. The Reagan campaign was happy to stay silent on the subject, knowing what an albatross around the neck it was for Carter. It used to drive me nuts every four years when Republicans running for president would fellate the ghost of Reagan by saying he brought the hostages home. If there’s new evidence that he, or his surrogates, actively delayed the release, that would be even more appalling.

I actually met one of the hostages a year or two after they came back. He spoke at my school about his experience. He told a story about how there was graffiti on the wall of the bathroom that said “down with Carter”. Every time he was there, he would add “sit” in front of it, and it would be erased by the next time he was there. Finally he scratched the word “sit” into the wall so they couldn’t get rid of it.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/157 "2024-12-29T23:07:12Z")

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I am an American and I didn’t know about that.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rest-in-peace-jimmy-carter-who-turned-100-on-october-1st-amazing-has-died-dec-29-2024/1004838/158 "2024-12-29T23:08:05Z")

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Happened to be watching network TV this afternoon - a dog show on ABC. First time I’ve seen a “Special Report” in I can’t remember how long. Boy, they sure went on for a while. Missed just about the entire herding dog class and part of the best in show!

Nothing against the man, and a lot of respect for him. Just have long wondered about the practice of extended “Special Reports.”

As a federal employee, I guess I’ll get a day off of work… (Which has always struck me as a somewhat suspect practice.)

I’m still embarrassed that in the first presidential election I voted in, I voted for that buffoon Reagan instead of a truly good man.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I’m still embarrassed that in the first presidential election I voted in, I voted for that buffoon Reagan instead of a truly good man.

To be fair, if there was ever a landslide election for president, is was Reagan over Carter. You were not the only one. (I was too young yet to vote in that election).

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Trump,is who we are, Carter is who we should have been

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> To be fair, if there was ever a landslide election for president, is was Reagan over Carter. You were not the only one.

We live in a very different era now, but in the '70s and '80s, three out of the four presidential elections were relative landslides (and of those three, 1980 was the “closest”):

- 1972: Nixon won 60.7% of the popular vote, and 520 electoral votes
- 1980: Reagan only won 50.7% of the popular vote (due to the presence of independent candidate John Anderson, who won 6.6%), but got 489 electoral votes
- 1984: Reagan won 58.8% of the popular vote, and 525 electoral votes

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