# Restaurants Cutting Off Customers Neckties with Scissors **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988 "2015-10-18T10:16:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/21 "2015-10-18T19:33:23Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The one in Garden Grove has been closed for quite a few years, but after hearing about it from my brother-in-law, I went in with my least-favorite tie to have it executed. This was in 1991. That must have been the one I went to as a kid. We were there with friends we were visiting in Gardena. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/22 "2015-10-18T19:50:31Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > WTF! The OP posted a thread and has no links for it and not one damn insult ! > So I can post my damn threads any way I want to and not get any insults! Why would he need links if he was asking a question? We normally demand links when one presents a statement as fact or to back up an opinion. **Siam Sam** was doing neither. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/23 "2015-10-18T20:00:56Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > What happens if I show up wearing a bow tie? Then they just stab you in the throat. They don’t suffer wiseacres lightly ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/24 "2015-10-18T20:35:55Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I went there a few times, but never wearing a tie. And that area’s all expensive strip clubs now, yes? Used to be, not any more. That area is ripe with prostitution now. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/25 "2015-10-18T21:16:13Z")
> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#): > > Then they just stab you in the throat. They don’t suffer wiseacres lightly That’s kinda what I was thinking; there’s not much on a bow tie to cut, and waving scissors that close to someone’s throat is asking for trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/26 "2015-10-18T21:32:10Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > WTF! The OP posted a thread and has no links for it and not one damn insult ! > So I can post my damn threads any way I want to and not get any insults! Okay, I will insult the OP if it will make you feel better: **Siam Sam** , your OP is rubbish. It is almost as bad as a post by **purplehearingaid**! ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/27 "2015-10-18T21:35:51Z")
My father had a photo of his necktie being cut off while sitting in a restaurant. No clue where it was, but it was 1950’s- 1960’s. He was laughing. Clearly knew it was coming. He’s been gone for 10 years so I cannot verify location or date. [Pinnacle Peak](http://www.amusingplanet.com/2015/05/pinnacle-peak-steakhouses-no-tie-policy.html) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/28 "2015-10-18T21:35:52Z")
> [@Cheez\_Whia](#): > > [Pinnacle Peak](http://www.pinnaclepeaksteakhouse.com/No_Ties_Allowed.html) restaurants in SoCal do this. You’re given plenty of notice about the ties, as I recall, so anyone getting a tie cut off has worn one on purpose. They used to hang up the cut ties in the restaurant. I don’t know if they still do this. Dad used to intentionally wear one of his ‘$200 Thai ties’ (every time mom went shopping in Thailand and spent $200, she’d buy dad a tie) to Pinnacle Peak, just so he could have it cut off. IIRC he’d fill out a card with his name on it, which would be stapled with the tie to the wall. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/29 "2015-10-18T21:50:27Z")
There’s a restaurant outside of Scottsdale with hundreds of ties pinned to the rafters. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/30 "2015-10-18T22:58:06Z")
There’s an episode of Frasier where Martin takes Frasier and Niles to such a place. Only time I’d ever heard of such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/31 "2015-10-18T23:00:54Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Used to be, not any more. That area is ripe with prostitution now. Damn stinky prostitutes! ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/32 "2015-10-18T23:42:27Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Was this ever a real thing? I recall hearing about such places back in the 1970s. The idea was that such restaurants were supposed to be laid-back with zero tolerance for any kind of formal wear, and if anyone dared show up wearing a necktie, it would get snipped off at the door. But I never actually encountered such a place, and it seems to me that would leave the business open to all sorts of lawsuits. When I was growing up in Des Moines, there was a pizza place in a nondescript green cinder block building near the airport called Bamie’s that allegedly had the best pizza. We never ate there in part because of the owner’s theatrics, which did indeed include this. However, local men would deliberately wear the ugliest ties they could find (which in the 1970s says something) so they could get on Bamie’s wall of fame (yes, he did display those ties). He would also spray patrons with a fire extinguisher without warning. They closed shortly before I started high school. There are gazillions of posts about Bamie’s on various DSM Facebook pages. The closest thing I’ve ever read to a negative review was one person who said their family always got the pizza to go because they thought the owner’s stunts got old really fast. ETA: I wrote this post before reading the rest of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/33 "2015-10-19T05:36:39Z")
> [@Cheez\_Whia](#): > > [Pinnacle Peak](http://www.pinnaclepeaksteakhouse.com/No_Ties_Allowed.html) restaurants in SoCal do this. You’re given plenty of notice about the ties, as I recall, so anyone getting a tie cut off has worn one on purpose. They used to hang up the cut ties in the restaurant. I don’t know if they still do this. I never knew they were a chain. There was one in Arizona, near _the_ Pinnacle Peak. I wonder if that’s where they got started. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/34 "2015-10-19T21:01:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’m guessing that they publicized it enough that almost all of the people wearing ties there were doing so deliberately with the intention of getting them cut off, and that the ~1% of tie-wearers who didn’t realize what was going to happen were given the choice to just take it off and put it in their pocket. Here in San Diego (suburb of Santee) we used to have Pinnacle Peak, a lovely place for a damn good steak. (Now out of business, doggonit.) They did the whole “Cut off your necktie” schtick, and, yes, obviously, they’d give fair warning just in case someone honestly didn’t know it was a schtick. The rafters were absolutely festooned with cut-off neckties. (I figure business went up right after Christmas and Father’s Day…) ETA: my bad, didn’t see it was already mentioned. Also didn’t know they were a chain. Any still open? ---
**Author:** ![SpeedwayRyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@SpeedwayRyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpeedwayRyan)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/35 "2015-10-19T21:18:25Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Damn stinky prostitutes! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/36 "2015-10-19T22:42:33Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Here in San Diego (suburb of Santee) we used to have Pinnacle Peak, a lovely place for a damn good steak. (Now out of business, doggonit.) > > They did the whole “Cut off your necktie” schtick, and, yes, obviously, they’d give fair warning just in case someone honestly didn’t know it was a schtick. > > The rafters were absolutely festooned with cut-off neckties. (I figure business went up right after Christmas and Father’s Day…) > > ETA: my bad, didn’t see it was already mentioned. Also didn’t know they were a chain. Any still open? Colton and San Dimas; click on the link! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/37 "2015-10-20T01:51:34Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > There’s an episode of Frasier where Martin takes Frasier and Niles to such a place. Only time I’d ever heard of such a thing. I remember that. For comedic effect, IIRC, Frasier and Niles have NO warning of the no-tie rule and are appalled when their very expensive silk ties are snipped off. Martin, their dad, knew ahead of time, and was quite amused. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/38 "2015-10-20T03:24:31Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > WTF! The OP posted a thread and has no links for it and not one damn insult ! > So I can post my damn threads any way I want to and not get any insults! This is out of bounds for this thread, if you have a problem with other posters, take it to the BBQ Pit. If you have a problem with rules or how the mods have handled things, take it to ATMB. If you ever see anyone insulting you or breaking rules, report the post. Don’t hijack another thread about this stuff, however. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/39 "2015-10-20T03:45:04Z")
There is a Pinnacle Peak restaurant in Tucson which seems to be (currently) unrelated to the ones in California (and pre-dates them by several years). They have been doing the tie cutting thing for decades. Anyone who actually gets a tie cut off is doing so on purpose (we used to have a Japanese sales manager who loved getting a cheesy tie cut off and a big steak whenever he was in town). The restaurant is in a faux western town compete with dressed up characters and a western stunt show… ---
**Author:** ![Donnerwetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Donnerwetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donnerwetter)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988/40 "2015-10-20T07:56:31Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > There is a day in the year in Germany when this happens, but I don’t know what it’s called. I do remember some really pissed off diplomats who lost expensive silk ties because of ignorance of the custom. Yes, it’s called _Weiberfastnacht_ which is on Thursday in the week before Ash Wednesday. Women in costumes will cut off your tie (I guess there is a psychological symbolism). Pictures: → [weiberfastnacht krawatte - Google Search](https://www.google.de/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=683&q=weiberfastnacht+krawatte&btnG=Bildersuche&oq=&gs_l=) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/restaurants-cutting-off-customers-neckties-with-scissors/734988.md?page=3)