Retirement -- How Much Is Enough?

If you are withdrawing 5% and earning 10% - aren’t you going to be increasing capital each year?

So lets say you saved $1,000,000 and earn 10% (I think that’s a high return to plan for, but its easy numbers)

You earn $100,000 in year one

You withdraw $50,000

You have $1,050,000 in capital in year two

You make $105,000 in year two, withdraw $52,500 (the $2.5k covers cost of living increases between year one and year two), and now have 1,102,500 in capital.

Okay, I’ve got to ask. What on earth is a Reverse Mortage? Your house somehow earns income for you? I can’t quite picture it.

The difference between what’s withdrawn for expenses and what you earn accounts for (a) variable returns in any given year (it won’t be 8% every year – some years it’ll be 16%, some years it’ll be 0%); (b) taxes; and (c) the vagaries of chance.

It’s sort of like an annuity with the house as the payment.

The bank will pay you, say, $1000 each month, and when you die, they get your home.

If you live a long time, it stinks for the bank. if you die next year, they just got your house for $12000.

Sure but if you get 8-10% and withdrawl 4-5% you aren’t withdrawing principal, just interest. Unless I missed something in your earilier post.

Both reverse mortgages I’ve been in the know about allow the surviving family members 6 months to pay the original loan and interest back. Then you get to keep the house. Easy to do if the person dies early on. Not so much when your loved one outlives his or her expectancy.

I probably wasn’t as clear as I could’ve been, because there are so many variables. If you have a string of low-return years, you could end up dipping into the principal. If you have a string of high-return years, you’re absolutely right.

Well, if I die, I’ll get squat for any investment. :stuck_out_tongue: But you can purchase annuities with a survivor benefit or those with a guaranteed pay-out period.

Sure, I’m aware of that. But if you build in these guarantees you’ll nearly always get an even lower annuity rate.