# Retro Games Deserving of a Remake **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 4, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983 "2012-12-04T19:18:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/41 "2012-12-05T11:23:46Z")
> [@Nature\_s\_Call](#): > > M.U.L.E. > [@pulykamell](#): > > This is the first game I thought of, too. Your prayers have been heard. Twice: [Emulated M.U.L.E.](http://www.atarimule.com/) [Remade with network play](http://www.planetmule.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/42 "2012-12-05T12:42:43Z")
[Syndicate.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate_%28video_game%29) I played the hell out of this game when it first came out. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/43 "2012-12-05T13:03:24Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I’m still not quite sure why they’re remaking Wasteland; the Fallout series pretty much took care of that. I don’t know about the remake but the original Wasteland had a squad, for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/44 "2012-12-05T13:08:28Z")
One of my favourites, Death Rally, has already been remade and another, Carmageddon, is due next year. To this list I’d add Warzone 2100 and Red Baron. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/45 "2012-12-05T13:50:48Z")
Maybe The Ancient Art of War. I say maybe because I can’t think of any recent games that play anything like it. I find it hard to imagine a modern version. Gunship. I bet there are similar recent games, though. I don’t follow flight sims, but I did enjoy Gunship. A rather obscure game that I enjoyed was Roadwar, which had a sequel called Roadwar Europa. It was sort of like the tabletop Car Wars, but instead of duels you had an army of thugs driving around, fighting battles, and trying to track down MacGuffin atomic bombs. It was always cool delivering a broadside from an armored bus or ramming a vehicle with a semi. Road Rash, a Sega motorcycle racer where you fought as you raced. Wii Boxing… just any good motion control boxing game. Weird that there don’t seem to be any. Shadowrun, another Sega title I thought was pretty good at the time. Probably would bore me to tears with all the fetch quests, but I’d like to try a remake. Master of Monsters, yet another Sega title. TBS, sort of like the Avalon Hill game, Titan in that you evolved your forces along a sort of tech tree. Speaking of Avalon Hill, I’ve been thinking recently about a card-based WWII game we used to play called UpFront. I once toyed with the idea of trying to do a computer version but honestly, it would be so much easier to buy one. Several AH games were made into PC games. I never got any to work, other than Colossus (a Java version of Titan). It’d be nice to have Kremlin, Kingmaker, and Civilization. Don’t know when I’d get around to playing them, but it would be nice. Roguelikes are retro, right? I’d like a version of Dungeon Crawl with modern graphics, keeping all the races, classes, and religions, keeping the anti-grind philosophy, fast play, and random levels, but making it not turn based, have permadeath optional, and with difficulty settings. I’ve never seen anything quite like the spells and gods that Crawl has in any game. Starflight. It was one of those single-player games my friends and I would play together. Never finished it. I suppose there have been similar games over the years. Panzer General has had a lot of sequels and a couple fan remakes, but I’d like to see a modern pro version that comes with multiple campaigns (Soviet, German, US, and GB) and a skirmish mode where you can play a random map against a PC opponent. Also voting for Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri and Darklands. I found the remake of Colonization terrible, though. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/46 "2012-12-05T14:14:58Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > [Syndicate.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate_%28video_game%29) I played the hell out of this game when it first came out. Good call… the recent reboot fell into the same old trap that many remakes do in that they try to do something totally different (see xcom 90s sequels). Just make and expand the functionality of the original Syndicate without changing the core game play! ---
**Author:** ![Stormcrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@Stormcrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stormcrow)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/47 "2012-12-05T14:16:10Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > It would be awesome to see Infocom’s games remade for the computers of today. I could play them in Garamond! Or Bookman Old Style! Everything gets dumbed down these days - you’d probably end up playing it in Comic Sans. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/48 "2012-12-05T14:18:03Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Play Wasteland 2. Fallout 1 = Wasteland remake/re-imagining for all intents and purposes. > I’m still not quite sure why they’re remaking Wasteland; the Fallout series pretty much took care of that. I completely disagree. Wasteland was MUCH more like Bard’s Tale with story, squad/party based combat and tension filled turn based mechanics. Fallout is a completely different type of game play with some level of connective tissue in terms of environment and setting. Fallout is great but its not Wasteland. Wasteland 2 is going to be amazing! ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/49 "2012-12-05T14:19:49Z")
Great call on Road Rash and Carmageddon! Here’s another: Autoduel! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/50 "2012-12-05T14:22:27Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > [Syndicate.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate_%28video_game%29) I played the hell out of this game when it first came out. I got a little excited when I saw a commercial for a new Syndicate game. Apparently, it is a reboot of the Syndicate series, but they’ve turned it into some first person shooter. (Still, it does look pretty cool.) ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/51 "2012-12-05T14:28:08Z")
Close Combat! ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/52 "2012-12-05T14:33:49Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > Great call on Road Rash and Carmageddon! > > Here’s another: > > Autoduel! Along the same lines: Interstate '76. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/53 "2012-12-05T15:25:26Z")
> [@Stormcrow](#): > > Everything gets dumbed down these days - you’d probably end up playing it in Comic Sans. True. With a drop-down list of possible actions. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/54 "2012-12-05T18:35:12Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Close Combat! Good call. Also, I’d love some good turn based hex wargames again. The V for Victory series was fantastic, published by the late lamented 360. Also Harpoon. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/55 "2012-12-05T18:58:58Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > I completely disagree. Wasteland was MUCH more like Bard’s Tale with story, squad/party based combat and tension filled turn based mechanics. > > Fallout is a completely different type of game play with some level of connective tissue in terms of environment and setting. > > Fallout is great but its not Wasteland. Wasteland 2 is going to be amazing! You’re winding up the actual game-play mechanics with the actual game itself. They were the exact same freakin’ game, except that because it was 1987 or so, Wasteland used that Bard’s Tale style interface, and because it was 1998 or so, Fallout used that 3rd person view. Otherwise, the stories were almost identical- just swap out robots for super mutants, Guardians for Brotherhood of Steel, Base Cochise for Mariposa Military Base and you pretty much have the same thing. Hell, even the Children of the Cathedral are essentially the Servants of the Mushroom Cloud. As for me, the games I’d love to see remade are “Mail Order Monsters” and Autoduel. I think Mail Order Monsters would be a great game for online tournament play, and Autoduel would make for a terrific MMORPG. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/56 "2012-12-05T19:39:16Z")
Mutant League Football. I want to play with Bones Jackson, and make you forfeit because I killed too many of your players! ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/57 "2012-12-05T21:09:01Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Pinball Construction Set In fact, two “updates” of this not only exist, but have quite a few reproductions of actual machines: Visual Pinball and Future Pinball (and both are free downloads, as are the tables). ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/58 "2012-12-05T21:22:25Z")
Any NES sports game. ---
**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/59 "2012-12-06T04:14:24Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > Your prayers have been heard. Twice: > [Emulated M.U.L.E.](http://www.atarimule.com/) > > [Remade with network play](http://www.planetmule.com/) You are my new god. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983/60 "2012-12-06T04:19:06Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > Maybe The Ancient Art of War. I say maybe because I can’t think of any recent games that play anything like it. I find it hard to imagine a modern version. > A rather obscure game that I enjoyed was Roadwar, which had a sequel called Roadwar Europa. It was sort of like the tabletop Car Wars, but instead of duels you had an army of thugs driving around, fighting battles, and trying to track down MacGuffin atomic bombs. It was always cool delivering a broadside from an armored bus or ramming a vehicle with a semi. Roadwar 2000, yes! Granted, it was just icons, but ramming a motorcycle with a bulldozer was still fun to think about. Keep it turn-based, maybe add more to ground combat than just watching casualty lists. Oh, and fix the bug where you could get a guy on top of another vehicle and he’d kill everyone inside next round, even if “inside” is the 50 people in a flatbed truck (and probably fix it so you can’t have 50 people on a flatbed truck going 60 mph down the road…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retro-games-deserving-of-a-remake/642983.md?page=4)