# Return of the Bishop Pedophiles. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264 "2002-06-15T22:13:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/61 "2002-06-22T15:22:24Z")
Although this thread has ( like all vital threads ) moved on from it’s OP, I haven’t had much to offer to it lately. **happyheathen** ’s last post does make me ask a question, and it’s meant without malice in any way. I’ve never heard the word before, is all. I understand a lapsed Catholic, lapsed Jew ( I’m one of those…), etc. “Ex” is self-explanatory. What do you mean by a “cafeteria” Catholic?? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/62 "2002-06-22T15:53:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cartooniverse \* > \*\*I understand a lapsed Catholic, lapsed Jew ( I’m one of those…), etc. “Ex” is self-explanatory. What do you mean by a “cafeteria” Catholic?? \*\* That would be a Catholic who orders their faith _a la carte_ instead of taking the full, sit-down meal. “I’ll take a serving of celibate priests, with a few Stations of the Cross, but hold the ban on birth control and can I get just a _little_ bit of that Purgatory?” This is one of the reasons that I originally lapsed. Rather than cheapen the faith of my mother, I decided that if I was going to disagree on the gay thing and the sex thing in general, I should probably just not be Catholic anymore. It’s also why I won’t just go up and take Communion when I do go to church with my family. Yeah, it’s just a piece of bread as far as I’m concerned, but I have enough respect for my mother’s and brother’s belief in its Jesusness that I won’t treat it like just bread. jayjay ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/63 "2002-06-22T15:54:59Z")
Cafeteria Catholic: You pick and choose those things of the catholic faith you want to adhere to, and leave out those things you don’t want. You might want to post that query in IMHO to get a more involved discussion going. Might fit GD criteria also. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/64 "2002-06-22T15:57:38Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **happyheathen** _ > \*\*Well, your “agent” v. “incarnation” interpretation would have gotten y’all roasted a while back (and I suspect the present Curia would not appreciate your thoughts). \*\* Where do you come up with these things? I seriously doubt that the Pope was thought to be the Second Coming of Christ at any time in the Church’s history. There has never been Catholic doctrine requiring worship of the Pope. There has never been a “the Pope is really Jesus!” movement. It’s certainly never been an article of faith. And the Curia today (and most likely throughout the history of the Church) would, far from not being happy about someone not holding this belief, consider it heresy and false teaching. ---
**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/65 "2002-06-22T19:27:17Z")
The word ‘Vicar’ has a very specific meaning, well beyond “Agent”. The question of whether the Pope is “standing in” for Christ is a central issue for the RCC, as I understand it. It is a topic on which a spectrum of opinion exists - could this be considered a “litmus test” for orthodoxy? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264/66 "2002-06-22T20:36:57Z")
Thank you. Live and learn. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-bishop-pedophiles/114264.md?page=3)