# Return of the King Question (poss spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070 "2003-11-03T01:51:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![green\_dragon\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/13edae/32.png) [@green\_dragon\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/green_dragon_1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/1 "2003-11-03T01:51:42Z")
Hi all, Apologies if this has already been covered, but I’ve been off the boards for a while. Saw a trailer for ROTK the other day and I saw no allusions to the scouring of the shire - does anyone know if they’re including this (not to mention the events following) in the movie, or are they just going for the typical wrap it up after the big fight thing? Cheers, David ---
**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/2 "2003-11-03T01:53:03Z")
Last I heard, it was being eliminated entirely. I could be wrong, or my information could be dated. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/3 "2003-11-03T02:22:51Z")
That’s what I’ve heard too, though perhaps audience reaction to the films to date might change Jackson’s mind. I doubt it though. It would seem to me that it’s too hard to carry an audience through the crowning, wedding, journey home, scouring of the shire and then the Grey Havens. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/4 "2003-11-03T02:32:34Z")
Maybe it’ll be in the Extended Edition - there are rumours all new footage will be shot for that, because the theatrical cut will be 3.5 hours long as it is - i.e. probably every scene shot is included. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/5 "2003-11-03T02:35:03Z")
The Scouring of the Shire was not and will not be included in either the movie or the EE DVD, per Jackson’s statements. It would simply be an unworkably long denouement and detract from the dramatic impact of the ending, not to mention make the movie about 4.5 hours long. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/6 "2003-11-03T03:04:29Z")
Though for some of us, that would be fine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/7 "2003-11-03T03:09:31Z")
On the FOTR commentaries, Jackson made it clear there’s no scouring. And it wasn’t filmed so it’s pretty unlikely that they’ve changed their minds. The Grey Havens are in so it’ll be a bit more than the typical wrap it up. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/8 "2003-11-03T19:26:06Z")
Not only was it not shot, but the Shire’s set was destroyed/broken down about two years ago. And since it took a year to grow, it’s not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![green\_dragon\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/13edae/32.png) [@green\_dragon\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/green_dragon_1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/9 "2003-11-03T19:32:15Z")
I guess that answers that one then. Glad the gray havens are in there at least. Cheers, David ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-king-question-poss-spoilers/211070/10 "2003-11-03T22:16:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Munch \* > \*\*Not only was it not shot, but the Shire’s set was destroyed/broken down about two years ago. And since it took a year to grow, it’s not going to happen. \*\* They’re actually restoring the Hobbiton set for a tourist attraction.