# Return of the son of the spammer who just got banned!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 9, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951 "2009-11-09T21:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/21 "2009-11-10T17:58:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The OP was a spammer, so I’ve banned him, but I’m leaving the thread open for now AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS.

Serious question: what’s a “spammer”? Is it a sock? A hinkbot? I’m guessing it’s some kind of bot, but what kind, exactly?

I’m not criticizing the banning, I’m just curious as to what kind of beastie a “spammer” is when it relates to a message board. I’ve never heard that particular terminology.

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/22 "2009-11-10T17:58:55Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Makes me think of cute Chinese girls, er, I mean, ‘attractive Chinese women’.

Me bing you long time?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/23 "2009-11-10T18:01:23Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Serious question: what’s a “spammer”? Is it a sock? A hinkbot? I’m guessing it’s some kind of bot, but what kind, exactly?

Some are bots and some are people - many of them have the exact same profile, so I’m sure those are bots. The RECAPTCHA system is supposed to keep the bots out but they’re always working on it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/24 "2009-11-10T18:17:24Z")

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> [@meanoldlady](#):
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> aha, so the mfer is a bing-bot.

A Bing-Bot?

READY  
10 SING “WHITE CHRISTMAS”  
20 DRINK  
30 GOTO 10  
RUN

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/25 "2009-11-10T18:33:07Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Serious question: what’s a “spammer”? …  
> I’m not criticizing the banning, I’m just curious as to what kind of beastie a “spammer” is when it relates to a message board.

Seriously? It’s a member whose primary purpose is to advertise/sell something, and who has no intention of being a contributing member of the community.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/26 "2009-11-10T18:35:38Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> The goat is currently out of action, and is having treatment by the Caprine Chiropractor for injuries sustained during our last Initiation Rites.
> 
> 😃

Thank God. I mean, even the goat has standards. 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/27 "2009-11-10T18:47:25Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> who has no intention of being a contributing member of the community.

Whoa, we’re supposed to _contribute?_  
When did this start?

😕

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/28 "2009-11-10T20:11:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The OP was a spammer, so I’ve banned him, but I’m leaving the thread open for now AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS.

Traditionally, shouldn’t his (well, it’s I guess, assuming he’s a bot) head be on a spike on the front page now?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/29 "2009-11-10T20:22:25Z")

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> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#):
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> Traditionally, shouldn’t his (well, it’s I guess, assuming he’s a bot) head be on a spike on the front page now?

I’m seeing this as the equivalent.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/30 "2009-11-10T20:24:26Z")

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🆒 Now I don’t have to try and like them. I say it’s better to save effort in the short term and see if they last a day.

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**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/31 "2009-11-10T20:47:16Z")

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ok I’m dumb, how did you know it was a spammer?

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/32 "2009-11-10T20:50:55Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> A Bing-Bot?
> 
> READY  
> 10 SING “WHITE CHRISTMAS”  
> 20 DRINK  
> 30 GOTO 10  
> RUN

Shouldn’t there be “get belt” as a POKE command somewhere? :eek:😃

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/33 "2009-11-10T21:40:33Z")

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> [@otternell](#):
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> ok I’m dumb, how did you know it was a spammer?

See **Wile E** ’s post #19. The spam message must have been deleted, or maybe it was in the sig line (I turned off sig lines).

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/34 "2009-11-10T23:34:30Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Seriously? It’s a member whose primary purpose is to advertise/sell something, and who has no intention of being a contributing member of the community.

I know what “spammer” means, but I didn’t see him trying to sell anything. At least at first. Hence my slight confusion. The funny thing is, since I didn’t _notice_ him trying to sell anything, he (or it) can’t be all that good at it. Re-reading the thread, was it supposed to be “bing”, the new piece of crap Microsoft search engine?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/35 "2009-11-11T00:04:02Z")

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> [@otternell](#):
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> ok I’m dumb, how did you know it was a spammer?

His sig originally said something about how great Bing was, and he had an entry at one of the sites I consult, Stop Forum Spam. I’ve improved his sig a few times since banning him. 😉

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I know what “spammer” means, but I didn’t see him trying to sell anything. At least at first. Hence my slight confusion. The funny thing is, since I didn’t _notice_ him trying to sell anything, he (or it) can’t be all that good at it. Re-reading the thread, was it supposed to be “bing”, the new piece of crap Microsoft search engine?

Some of them just hit you with a long list of links or talk dirty; others try to be subtle and only do one spam post and one or two legit posts, or just put it in their sig lines. I think sigs are defaulted to off here, or most people just ignore them, so that tactic doesn’t work well here. But I’ve been having fun with **REENCUTTYLIET** ’s.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/36 "2009-11-11T04:58:37Z")

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Am I only one enjoying this thread?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/37 "2009-11-11T06:09:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Some are bots and some are people - many of them have the exact same profile, so I’m sure those are bots. The RECAPTCHA system is supposed to keep the bots out but they’re always working on it.

How can they beat those captcha things? Well I gues I can’t figure out how they do most of what they do, but the captchas seem like a pretty tough thing for a non human to get by

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**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/38 "2009-11-11T06:20:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> but the captchas seem like a pretty tough thing for a non human to get by

OT but I have friends who are deaf blind who have trouble getting past those things.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/39 "2009-11-11T06:21:37Z")

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> [@Bootis](#):
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> How can they beat those captcha things? Well I gues I can’t figure out how they do most of what they do, but the captchas seem like a pretty tough thing for a non human to get by

One idea I’ve heard of is to use _their_ captcha on _your_ site. Every time someone enters the site looking for porn or whatever, they break a captcha for you.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-of-the-son-of-the-spammer-who-just-got-banned/516951/40 "2009-11-11T11:05:49Z")

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Was this originally in MPSIMS? Because that’s pretty cool if it figured out the right forum to introduce itself. Or, well, scary.

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