# Return to the Batcave

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 10, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229 "2003-03-10T04:30:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/21 "2003-03-11T04:36:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SadTomato \*  
> \*\*I want more details on the actress that went after Burt Ward with a knife. _Dang,_ that was bizarre! \*\*

It was Hollywood in the 60s – who knows what funky drugs and kink that chick may have been into…

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> ## Originally posted by Eats\_Crayons Julie Newmar and Earth getting into a “catfight” over who is the quintessential Catwoman. That would’ve been cool!
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> Originally answered by kunilou  
> **Earth Kitt is 76 years old and Julie Newmar is 69. Unless you think the sound of hip bones snapping is cool, your fantasy is about 35 years too late, old chum.**

Yes, but in my mind I see “stunt doubles” that look like “really obvious stunt doubles”, then close-ups of the actual stars for the witty repartée.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/22 "2003-03-11T08:06:19Z")

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Damn, I remember watching the original series on KOFY TV 20 in San Francisco every morning. Are they going to re-show the movie?

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/23 "2003-03-11T08:18:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SadTomato \*  
> \*\*I want more details on the actress that went after Burt Ward with a knife. _Dang,_ that was bizarre! \*\*

From [cbs.com](http://www.cbs.com/specials/batcave/):

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> Adam’s daughter, Nina West, also appears in RETURN TO THE BATCAVE. Nina plays the actress who has a one-night stand with Burt and then tries to stab him!

She doesn’t even show up on the IMDb.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Frink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Mr.Frink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Frink)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/24 "2003-03-11T08:23:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SadTomato \*  
> \*\*Actually, he _was_ seriously considered for the part. It’s mentioned in a documentary on one of the Bond DVDs. \*\*

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> \*Originally posted by Telemark \*  
> \*\*And Burt Ward was definately wanted by the producer of The Graduate but the TV show wouldn’t release him. He was all set to play the part, but the movie was forced to find another actor. Bizarre but true, now I have to find that cite… \*\*

wow…now that is surprising. And I thought it was just a case of aging actor egos…

I still can’t imagine _either_ of them in those roles. That would’ve been a hoot, though. Can you imagine Burt Ward continuing with the career of Dustin Hoffman: “And now, getting the Academy Award for _Rainman_: **Burt Ward**!!!”

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/25 "2003-03-11T12:43:22Z")

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Speaking of villain cameos, wasn’t that Lee Meriwether (Catwoman from the 1966 Batman movie) playing the waitress with the glasses in the diner, who just happened to be the female fan with glasses that got Adam West to sign her breast back in the 60’s?

IMDB only has a short list of the cast.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/26 "2003-03-11T13:14:22Z")

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**wiidershin** A-ha! Maybe. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out who she was… Okay, I confess, anyone onscreen who was above the age of 60 I assumed was a cameo appearance of some kind.

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**Author:** ![SadTomato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SadTomato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SadTomato)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/27 "2003-03-11T15:51:46Z")

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Just to give credit where credit is due–the DVD of **Diamonds Are Forever** has the Adam West reference on it. The producers (for some strange reason) wanted to make Bond “more American.”

Dana Broccoli, widow of Bond producer Albert R. Broccoli, says :  
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“Adam West was on a publicity tour in London and he did come to the house–and of course, he was under contract playing Batman. I guess you might say that they had the conversation. He was considered.”\*

BTW, according to the doc, had Connery not returned as Bond, the part would have gone to John Gavin, best know as Janet Leigh’s lover in **Psycho**.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/28 "2003-03-11T17:42:19Z")

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Want a strange world? Imagine Burt Ward starrring in the Graduate and because of the mammoth failure Mike Nichols reteams with Elaine May and gets out of movies.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/29 "2003-03-11T17:59:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Exapno Mapcase \*  
> \*\*Established means that it was shown in a previous shot. They didn’t have to go out and rent another Maserati.
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> In other words, a cheap producer could get away with using only one set of props instead of beinging in a new car for each scene.
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> It was a swipe at the producers of the original series, who used stock footage and old props in many episodes to save money. \*\*

It is also a convention in expensive movies too.  
You know like the button shown early in the film where another character says “Don’t press it or the hydraulic press will be activated” Then we don’t see it again until the end of the film when the hero needs to smoosh the villain.

In the show we had a shot of Adam getting in his car and driving his car so we know (it is established) he has a car and we know what type of car it is.

So When Burt offers his car Adam replies

“Let’s take my car. It’s been established”

The joke, in my mind, was more of a self aware reference to the fact that yes we are acting like actors in a movie and we know it’s a movie. Ahhhh heck it gets less funny as I try to explain it.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/30 "2003-03-11T18:34:07Z")

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I thought it was great.

I think they missed one opportunity though - that _was_ Lee Meriwether. I think they could have had a great time having both Meriwether and Julie Newmar playing the same role - switching from shot to shot (and Eartha Kitt, too, if they woulda gotten her).

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/return-to-the-batcave/160229/31 "2003-03-11T18:44:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bup \*  
> \*\*I think they missed one opportunity though - that _was_ Lee Meriwether. I think they could have had a great time having both Meriwether and Julie Newmar playing the same role - switching from shot to shot (and Eartha Kitt, too, if they woulda gotten her). \*\*

Okay, now _that_ really would have been funny.

Newmar (standing next to Gorshin): You’re doomed, has-been!

Adam West: Frank Gorshin and Julie Newmar!.. _you_ stole the Batmobile.

Meriwether (dressed in Newmar’s outfit, standing next to Gorshin): That’s right , _we_ lured you here.

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