# Reuters' men get thumb up ass, shit popsicle. Ought not alienate the working press.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003 "2004-05-19T18:28:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/21 "2004-05-20T22:31:03Z")
[Reuters Stands by Iraq Abuse Reports, Releases Timeline on Incident](http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000515956) ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/22 "2004-05-21T00:49:33Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Seriously, if this kind of shit was happening to Americans _anywhere_ at _anytime_ we would be going absolutely apeshit and wanting vengence. > > I can’t imagine us not getting attacked again soon and, sadly, if it happens before November, well you know what that means. Dick Cheney remembered where he hid the C4 just before his last bypass made him forget everything? ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/23 "2004-05-21T01:14:03Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Oh well, that’s OK then. A closed investigation by the same military that is currently in deep shit due to abuse of prisoners found “no abuse of any kind”. Phew. Those bullshitting journalist fucks. Well they were only Arabs. Can’t trust any of them. No doubt the investigation was conducted by RUC on loan… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/24 "2004-05-21T02:07:33Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Stress induction and sleep deprivation are standard interrogation tactics. Dietary change is another. Sleep deprivation and “stress induction” (nice euphamism) are torture techniques. Just because they’re “standard” doesn’t mean they’re not torture techniques. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/25 "2004-05-21T02:12:22Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > US troops have been [cleared of charges.](http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/nation/8713782.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp) I see. The military has cleared itself. They asked the perps if they did it and they said no. That’s good enough for me. Not. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/26 "2004-05-21T02:30:23Z")
[Do you think the military justice system will give soldiers accused of mistreating Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison fair trials, free of undue command influence?](http://www.armytimes.com/static.php?f=view.php) ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/27 "2004-05-21T03:16:16Z")
Can we start calling him Maj. Gen. Ricardo “Dirty” Sanchez now? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/28 "2004-05-21T15:59:16Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Stress induction and sleep deprivation are standard interrogation tactics. Dietary change is another. Sometimes it’s hard to believe the length people will go to, to defend human rights abuses, provided of course that those abuses are committed by US citizens. [From Amnesty International](http://web.amnesty.org/pages/irq-torture-eng) > [@](#): > > The United Nations Committee against Torture, the expert body established by the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment has expressly held that restraining detainees in very painful positions, hooding, threats, and prolonged sleep deprivation are methods of interrogation which violate the prohibition on torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/29 "2004-05-21T16:05:06Z")
> [@Frankenstein Monster](#): > > My point exactly. This seems to be an accurate statement of fact about occupation policy. Torture is standard interrogation tactics. Rush Limbaugh has taken to caling these things “ **traditional interrogation methods**.” I laughed so hard that I literally did spew on my keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/30 "2004-05-21T16:18:58Z")
82nd Airborne investigation summary Executive summary of an 82nd Airborne Division investigation into the alleged treatment of Reuters Journalists by soldiers in the division. 28 JAN 04 [REUTERS/NBC EMPLOYEE DETENTION EXECUTIVE SUMMARY](http://newsobserver.com/news/story/3598649p-3198635c.html) This investigation was appointed by the Commanding General, 82d Airborne Division on 10 January 2004, after receipt of allegations in a letter from Reuters dated 9 January 2004. Previous to this investigation, an inquiry was conducted into the propriety of detaining 4 Iraqis on 2 January 2004 who claimed to be employees of the press. The results of previous inquiries into the facts and circumstances leading to the detention of three Reuters and one NBC employee have been considered and included in this report of investigation. Likewise, the information received from Reuters dated 16 January 2004, including detailed statements of three Reuters employees, have been considered as part of this investigation. A similar request for information directed toward NBC concerning their employee’s involvement and treatment while temporarily detained has not yet been answered or received. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/31 "2004-05-21T16:36:36Z")
> [@Arnold Winkelried](#): > > Sometimes it’s hard to believe the length people will go to, to defend human rights abuses, provided of course that those abuses are committed by US citizens. > [From Amnesty International](http://web.amnesty.org/pages/irq-torture-eng) And from a lot of supposed Christians as well. What would Jesus do? He wouldn’t have tortured or countenanced torture of any form from what I’ve heard and was taught about him. Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/32 "2004-05-21T16:43:17Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Stress induction and sleep deprivation are standard interrogation tactics. Dietary change is another. What do you mean by dietary change? I assume this is more than forcing them to “Do Atkins” for a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/33 "2004-05-21T17:32:58Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > What do you mean by dietary change? I assume this is more than forcing them to “Do Atkins” for a few days. Maybe [this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43783-2004May20.html) is what he meant. > [@](#): > > Some said they were pressed to denounce Islam or were force-fed pork and liquor. Ot [this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43783-2004May20_2.html). > [@](#): > > …Graner repeatedly threw the detainees’ meals into the toilets and said, “Eat it.” ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/34 "2004-05-21T18:13:45Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Some said they were pressed to denounce Islam or were force-fed pork and liquor. > > …Graner repeatedly threw the detainees’ meals into the toilets and said, “Eat it.” Ah. Thanks. To the best of my limited knowledge, that is NOT part of Atkins. (Except for the force-feeding of pork, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/35 "2004-05-21T18:33:56Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > US troops have been [cleared of charges.](http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/nation/8713782.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp) Translation: No pictures or video were taken of the incident. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/36 "2004-05-21T20:28:46Z")
> [@Tentacle Monster](#): > > Can we start calling him Maj. Gen. Ricardo “Dirty” Sanchez now? (trying to recover from an asthma attack brought on by laughter) That…is…so…WRONG!.. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/37 "2004-05-21T20:33:55Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > And from a lot of supposed Christians as well. What would Jesus do? He wouldn’t have tortured or countenanced torture of any form from what I’ve heard and was taught about him. Am I wrong? Yes you are sadly mistaken. I forgive you since, living in Ireland, you are probably not up to date on the American socio-political climate, but the US government is fulfilling its duty to Jesus with the Iraq invasion. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/38 "2004-05-21T22:30:52Z")
> [@Arnold Winkelried](#): > > … the US government is fulfilling its duty to Jesus with the Iraq invasion. What a relief to hear this… I felt so utterly dumb… I just didn’t understand why people who got out of Abu Graib said that they were made to denounce Islam and thank Jesus for being alive. One seems to have been beaten on his broken leg until he cursed Islam. I say that this is the way to go and proselytize In The Name Of Jesus Our Lord And Saviour. I’m now sending a US flag to Baghdad decorated with the reveiling message: **At Abu Graib Jesus Saves Muslims from all over the place To make them feel fine We beat them up in line Christians are so good Surely they understood.** Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/39 "2004-05-22T02:39:24Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > What a relief to hear this… I felt so utterly dumb… I just didn’t understand why people who got out of Abu Graib said that they were made to denounce Islam and thank Jesus for being alive. > One seems to have been beaten on his broken leg until he cursed Islam. > I say that this is the way to go and proselytize In The Name Of Jesus Our Lord And Saviour. > > I’m now sending a US flag to Baghdad decorated with the reveiling message: > > **At Abu Graib Jesus Saves > Muslims from all over the place > To make them feel fine > We beat them up in line > Christians are so good > Surely they understood.** > Salaam. A **Aldebaran** , _Arnold Winkelried_\* was being sarcastic with that remark, not serious. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003/40 "2004-05-22T15:30:24Z")
I know … Me too 🙂 But I can imagine that Heavenly Inspired Bush must really be pleased that the US Heros do such a great job in converting the Iraqi Muslims to the Jesus Saves Belief. Some of them even received baptism with fresh US urine. What more can you expect as a gift to welcome you in the Great Religion of Christ? Salaam. A [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reuters-men-get-thumb-up-ass-shit-popsicle-ought-not-alienate-the-working-press/246003.md?page=3)