# Revenant, The

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 6, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297 "2016-01-06T05:20:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/21 "2016-04-23T21:51:13Z")

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Gotcha - I just reread what I wrote and noticed that it could literally read “legless” and wanted to clarify for future historians and archivists…

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/22 "2016-04-26T15:16:33Z")

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I just watched it on Amazon Prime over the weekend. Cinematically it was incredible. I thought the best actor of the movie was Tom Hardy. Leo was good, but his best actor Oscar wasn’t for this movie as a stand alone accomplishment.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/23 "2016-04-26T16:06:27Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> I understand that. I just couldn’t believe that they expected US to believe that he could be sutured up in a filthy (medically speaking) environment and survive. I have read about grizzly attacks where the victims who DID survive had about 400 sutures and almost didn’t survive the loss of blood.
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> Yet old Leo somehow survives out in the middle of nowhere? I mean how unrealistic does a film have to be before people get upset? I have a very low threshold myself.
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> Again, I agree with this brilliant review
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> [http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/09/the-revenant-review-brutal-beautiful-banal](http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/09/the-revenant-review-brutal-beautiful-banal)

Thing is, the movie was based on an actual guy who was actually mauled (and lived).

> **[Hugh Glass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Glass)**
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> Hugh Glass (c. 1783 – 1833) was an American frontiersman, fur trapper, trader, hunter and explorer. He is best known for his story of survival and forgiveness after being left for dead by companions when he was mauled by a grizzly bear.
> No records exist regarding his origins but he is widely said to have been born in Pennsylvania to Scotch-Irish parents. Glass became an explorer of the watershed of the Upper Missouri River, in present-day Montana, the Dakotas, and the Platte River area of Nebr...

The movie took lots of liberties with the story (adding a son, for example), but the basic fact - of being horribly mauled, left for dead, and nonetheless surviving - actually happened.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/24 "2016-04-26T16:48:05Z")

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I guess they added the son to make his revenge quest reasonable to the audience. Being left for dead after that mauling with a days long hike ahead through 2 ft of snow over a mountain all while being chased by Indians isn’t something you can really blame his crew for doing. Needed a loved one murdered to sell it.

I was underwhelmed both with Leo’s acting and the story. Some great scenes though.

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**Author:** ![flaming\_yawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@flaming\_yawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flaming_yawn)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/25 "2016-04-26T17:31:03Z")

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We watched it over the weekend. This is the first Leonardo film I have sat through…ever. I had to be diplomatic in the watching as everyone knows my disdain for Leo. I was picking out flaws and goofs in the whole movie with out even trying. Hypothermia much?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/26 "2016-04-26T18:49:07Z")

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> [@flaming\_yawn](#):
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> We watched it over the weekend. This is the first Leonardo film I have sat through…ever. I had to be diplomatic in the watching as everyone knows my disdain for Leo. I was picking out flaws and goofs in the whole movie with out even trying. Hypothermia much?

Yeah, the wife and I were both pretty baffled how casually they strolled through freezing mountain rivers. There really weren’t any waterproof boots and leggings back then. Oh, but he did have to breath on his fingers a couple times.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/27 "2016-04-26T19:01:43Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yeah, the wife and I were both pretty baffled how casually they strolled through freezing mountain rivers. There really weren’t any waterproof boots and leggings back then. Oh, but he did have to breath on his fingers a couple times.

Leonardo DiCaprio went over waterfalls in a freezing river after being scattered, smothered, covered and raped by a bear and losing body parts and shot and stabbed repeatedly, and I think he was on fire at time, and he survived just fine.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/28 "2016-04-26T19:25:49Z")

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Yeah I guess walking in mountain snow runoff rivers was the least of his problems. Lol. But still, it’s freezing fucking cold, maybe walk BESIDE the river instead of down the middle?

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/29 "2016-04-27T13:06:54Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I guess they added the son to make his revenge quest reasonable to the audience. Being left for dead after that mauling with a days long hike ahead through 2 ft of snow over a mountain all while being chased by Indians isn’t something you can really blame his crew for doing. Needed a loved one murdered to sell it.
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> I was underwhelmed both with Leo’s acting and the story. Some great scenes though.

Apparently a big part of the real guy’s motive was - he wanted his favorite rifle back. He never actually took “revenge” on anyone; he forgave the one fellow, and when he caught up to the other, the guy who had his rifle, he had enlisted in the army; so he contented himself with getting his gun back.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/30 "2016-04-27T21:28:26Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Apparently a big part of the real guy’s motive was - he wanted his favorite rifle back. He never actually took “revenge” on anyone; he forgave the one fellow, and when he caught up to the other, the guy who had his rifle, he had enlisted in the army; so he contented himself with getting his gun back.

Yeah, the fact that there was no real “there” there to the story made me decide to not watch the film, after I read the Wikipedia article about Hugh Glass.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/31 "2016-04-27T23:03:08Z")

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My favorite “lol wut” moment was when he had to cauterize a hole in his neck that was so bad he was breathing out of it. Kinda made an earlier scene when Tom Hardy was suffocating him a little confusing.

Also, I’m so totally sick of watching people on horses casually shoot bad guys off their horses. Leo’s blowing Indians away and not even reloading that old-timey flintlock gun which I thought was a labor-intensive process with a flint and gunpowder, etc, that wasn’t even reliable to shoot at all if it was raining or snowing.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/32 "2016-07-02T14:11:45Z")

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SPOILER ALERT…

We (wife and I) just saw the movie, we Redboxed it. The _ **only** _ good thing I can say about it is the cinematography was good.

The movie sucked. A simplistic story of revenge. It was too much _Fear Factor_, trying to shock the audience with moments of _wow!_ or _eww that’s gross!_ or _brutal bear attack!_ or _can we see more saliva frothing from the mouth?_

It sucked. Waste of time. For any movie, start with giving me a good story that I can care about. Not this one. After 20-30 minutes I asked my wife, What does the word revenant mean, anyway. I had to look it up and once I did, at that moment, I realized the movie was a simple story of him coming back from deadly injury to exact revenge - a pathetic story line that does not creat any compelling aspects to it.

Okay, a second good thing to say: _ **Thank you, Redbox!** _ Redbox saved me a lot of money. I’m glad we didn’t pay $$ to ee thi in the theater$.

I like DiCaprio and think he is one of the greats, not just of today, but when his career is done if he keeps doing great works he’ll be one of the greats of all time. But if you want to see good DiCaprio work then I suggest _Blood Diamond_. Stay away from this movie, it sucks.

Oh yeah, one more thing, did I say this movie sucks?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/33 "2016-10-09T17:57:44Z")

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Saw it last night on cable. I agree with those who say: nice scenery, boring movie. I kept thinking I was watching a Terrence Malick film, and I say that in a bad way.

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**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/34 "2016-10-10T22:01:02Z")

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I’ve seen bits and pieces of it and it has yet to impress me. A very dark movie, full of violence in a dark way, and as another poster mentioned, too much revenge.  
But recently I did catch the bear attack. Almost too realistic for me.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenant-the/742297/35 "2016-10-10T22:24:16Z")

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Just watched it last night. It took a _long_ time to get anywhere, and then the ‘revenge’ part lasted five minutes.

Beautiful cinematography, though.

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