# Revenge of the Sith TV Ads are at starwars.com

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 2, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373 "2005-04-02T05:37:13Z")
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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/21 "2005-04-06T02:04:28Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> What’s so cheesy about that?

It’s not the line so much as HOW she says it. It just sounds very odd.

Now, on the other hand, Obi-Wan’s “You were the chosen one!” is just heartbreaking.  
**Apos** , I think once Luke manages to bring back Anakin to the Light, other Jedi are able to conquer the Dark Side.

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### Author: ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/22 "2005-04-06T03:06:26Z")

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> [@Soapbox Monkey](#):
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> Well clearly the eyes ARE a product of the Dark Side considering that Maul has them, and Anakin does also, at least during The Duel.

Contacts? Just sayin. 🙂

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### Author: ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/23 "2005-04-06T03:47:52Z")

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> [@Soapbox Monkey](#):
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> Well, the Visual Dictionary and the Episode 3 novel are officially released, and word on the [www.theforce.net](http://www.theforce.net) Episode 3 spoiler forum is that Theory #3 is the explanation.

Then put the actual spoiler stuff in a spoiler box, and the idle speculation not in a spoiler box - it doesn’t spoil anything!

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### Author: ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/24 "2005-04-06T04:44:15Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> Contacts? Just sayin. 🙂

Well, in real life, yes, obviously the actors wear contacts. But it seems that the yellowish eyes are a manifestation of pure hate.

Dooku doesn’t have yellow eyes, but then again, he seems fairly laid back about the whole situation. At least for a Sith.

Maul seems to be the most hatefilled of any of them, since his eyes were burning yellow and red the whole movie.

Palpatine’s eyes yellow(fy?) after his appearance is altered, and why not? Wouldn’t you be pissed if you had to look like that for the rest of your life?

There are shots of Anakin with yellow eyes in the trailers, but then there are other shots during his duel with Obi Wan where his eyes seem to have gone back to normal. Guess we’ll have to see about that one…

But basically the yellow eyes do not seem to be a permanent change. Just in the cases of Maul and Palpatine where they are constantly consumed with hatred.

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### Author: ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/25 "2005-04-06T05:41:16Z")

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> [@Atrael](#):
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> I’m looking forward to this movie, but it still irks me that the Jedi are so damn dumb. “The one prophesied to bring balance to the force”…well gee dipshit, if all you “light” side jedi are in control, and have been for ages, perhaps bringing “balance” isn’t what you really want now, is it?..Idiots…all of them.

Like said before, the term ‘balance to the force’ is very vague. I’d imagine in a world where the Sith have been stamped out (at least as far as the Jedi know) for millenia, bringing balance to the force wouldn’t have conjured up ideas of the Dark Side getting to rule for a while.

By ‘balance’ to the force, it seems that the Jedi thought that all the deviations from the true Jedi teachings would be culled. In other threads posters have made the point that the Jedi seem to be very sloppy in Ep 1 and 2. There is a Sith Lord in the same city, right in front of them, and they don’t see it. They seem to be a bureacratic nightmare and a political body rather than a spiritual one. Bringing balance to the force may have meant to them that all this politics will be removed and it will return to the spiritual roots.

It’s like (a wild example, but go with me) a Christian child being prophesied to bring ‘balance to the faith’. The faithful would think that would mean putting an end to all this politics in the faith and the corruption of the Churches and bring it back to spiritual pureness… NOT that he would be the anti-Christ and bring a rule of Satan to the Earth.

So they just misinterpreted what ‘balance’ meant. It doesn’t mean they are idiots, but due to the times they were living, they believed it stood for something entirely different, not something which, for what they knew, was dead.

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### Author: ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/26 "2005-04-06T07:53:25Z")

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I read their interpretation of “balance” being restoring whatever has apparently gone wrong with Jedi powers. As of Ep1, they know that the Sith still exist, so I would think that the Dark Side possibility would have at least occured… but been rejected. According to the movie buzz, we are going to learn more about the Force in Ep3, so perhaps this is just beyond knowing at this point.

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### Author: ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/27 "2005-04-06T08:00:15Z")

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> [@Soapbox Monkey](#):
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> Well, in real life, yes, obviously the actors wear contacts. But it seems that the yellowish eyes are a manifestation of pure hate.

Maybe. But I more meant Palpatine wearing contacts so he doesn’t have to look like a freak all the time. 🙂

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> Dooku doesn’t have yellow eyes, but then again, he seems fairly laid back about the whole situation. At least for a Sith.
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> Maul seems to be the most hatefilled of any of them, since his eyes were burning yellow and red the whole movie.

And yet, Dooku is clearly a more powerful Sith than Maul. So hatred and power as a Sith don’t necessarily go hand in hand. Dooku in one of the EU books at least says that simple hate is a quick and easy path to the dark side, but that Sidious has taught him that true, cold, pitiless indifference is a more ultimate expression.

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> Palpatine’s eyes yellow(fy?) after his appearance is altered, and why not? Wouldn’t you be pissed if you had to look like that for the rest of your life?

I guess, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if Palpatine can simply control his appearance with his Sith powers, and his yellow eyed, spike tooth form is just his real form.

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> There are shots of Anakin with yellow eyes in the trailers, but then there are other shots during his duel with Obi Wan where his eyes seem to have gone back to normal. Guess we’ll have to see about that one…
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> But basically the yellow eyes do not seem to be a permanent change. Just in the cases of Maul and Palpatine where they are constantly consumed with hatred.

Could be. Though… I have to say that jaundice is kind a sissy way to demonstrate anger. 🙂

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### Author: ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/28 "2005-04-06T11:51:16Z")

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> [@dotchan](#):
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> Man. And I thought _I_ wrote cheesy dialogue.

Star Wars movies have always had scads of cheesy dialogue.

It is the way of things.

The way of the Force.

I’m so happy. Anakin’s got the bad '70s hair, there’s proto-TIE Fighters flying around, there’s going to be LOTS of light saber battles…

But if that Wookiee is Chewbacca I’m gonna throw something at the screen.

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### Author: ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/29 "2005-04-06T14:38:58Z")

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> [@Orual](#):
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> But if that Wookiee is Chewbacca I’m gonna throw something at the screen.

Don’t throw something so big it will disrupt the experience for everyone else.

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### Author: ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/30 "2005-04-06T23:27:53Z")

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> [@Soapbox Monkey](#):
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> Don’t throw something so big it will disrupt the experience for everyone else.

Oh, just a wee ball of rage, surely.  
Actually, I’ll probably just mutter under my breath for 2 seconds and then get distracted by something shiny.

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### Author: ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/31 "2005-04-06T23:49:10Z")

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> [@Orual](#):
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> Oh, just a wee ball of rage, surely.  
> Actually, I’ll probably just mutter under my breath for 2 seconds and then get distracted by something shiny.

You do realize that my response is basically confirming that, yes, the wookie is in fact Chewbacca? Just checking. 😃

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### Author: ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revenge-of-the-sith-tv-ads-are-at-starwars-com/297373/32 "2005-04-07T00:37:49Z")

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> [@dotchan](#):
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> “You’re breaking my heart!”
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> :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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> Man. And I thought _I_ wrote cheesy dialogue.

In the original script the line was “because I’m not…one…of…your…faaaaaaans!”

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