# Reverend Mykeru banned. SDMB Pit vultures rejoice. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718 "2003-02-26T20:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/222 "2003-02-28T04:00:50Z")
It doesn’t take that long to figure out the general tenor of a party and start having the same kind of good time there that everyone else is having. So if someone shows up on a forum, reads enough of it to figure out that people post their opinions, sometimes (often?) controversial and a lot of them flame each other for it, then they start participating in the same manner of action that everyone else already is, why does it matter how long they were around? I don’t think it really does matter how long someone was on a particular forum. It’s not like messageboards aren’t all similar in a lot of ways (along the lines of how all parties are somewhat similar). If you’ve been into the internet scene for a long time, it really doesn’t take that damn long to figure out the workings of a new hangout. It’s the people who insist on treating someone like a child whose hand must be held and who can be insulted with impunity because of the info in the left hand column under registration date and post count that are irritating. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/223 "2003-02-28T04:07:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > \*\*I recall _Coldy_ suggesting to him to check out other forums. and IIRC, _Beer_ told him ‘we’re reviewing your posting history, discussing your case’ > > again, I’m not necessarily claiming there was a ‘rule’ gig. He did not much more than bitch about the posters, the rules, the mods. If it all was so very beneath him, troublesome for him etc, then why would he want to be here, other than continue to bitch etc.\*\* Somtimes there is no warning, as in my **Suspenderzzzz** example above IIRC. I don’t recall seeing anyone upset about that banning. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/224 "2003-02-28T04:09:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Try to tell me that these words couldn’t be perfectly applied to the late, unlamented Reverend M. I actually remember that instance very well indeed, **Fenris** , and I’m gonna try to tell you that those words don’t apply the same way to **Reverend Mykeru**. 🙂 That, I recall, happened in the middle of a large insurgence of trolls, people who were unhappy with the SDMB (because they came in supporting the uber-troll **concrete** , and not incidentally, **Melin** ) and their socks. That was a result of a cross-board skirmish, I believe, which should be stamped out. Here, however, **Mykeru** did contribute to the forum, just not in ways people liked. He was abrasive. So? He was also funny, and agood bit of the time, right. Pat Robertson _is_ a fakir. He _has_ bilked God only knows how many people out of their money. He _is_ probably responsible for deaths because of his admontions to ignore modern medicine. And he _is_ a hypocrite for running into the arms of modern medicine at the first sign of trouble. He tried to contribute to the Scott Peterson thread. He discussed website costs. He corrected (harshly, but big deal, and he was right) **manhattan** when he had an aneurysm about someone talking about file sharing. We’ve been over these things before. In the end, I think this post by **Mykeru** nicely illustrates where he was coming from: > [@](#): > > No. I certainly would not have flamed someone for raising a point. Maybe White Lightning isn’t stupid, but he certainly didn’t read for content or ask for clarification. > > Now, what he did was immediately open up another thread intended for personal attack, apparently under the impression that pitting the newbie would be easy and fun. > > It’s the sort of stupid and cowardly thing I wouldn’t do. > > You will also notice in the same threads that where people had a modicum of intelligence and could carry out a discussion I responded in kind. And when someone, on a hair-trigger, opens a thread announcing that a new poster is a “fucking tool”, he deserves to get his teeth kicked in, mercilessly, forever. _Precisely_. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/225 "2003-02-28T04:09:21Z")
**Coldfire** on 2/24 > [@](#): > > Yo, Mykeru? Try to read one of the other forums for a while. You seem to have a rather unhealthy fascination with this one, and it’s not doing you a lot of good. As it is, your behaviour is being discussed by the staff. > > Just saying. [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3047484#post3047484) to which he (partially) replied > [@](#): > > I am just appalled at the stupidity and visciousness of this one, both regulars and moderators alike. > > I will remind you that the origin of this whole discussion came from a moderator shutting down a thread because he thought it indicated illegal activity, apparently not having the sense to differentiate between MP3 ripping for persona use and file sharing, which lead to an equally irrelevant discussion of legal considerations of libel action which has jack shit to do with IPR (Intellectual Property Rights) issues, even if there were IPR issues, which there are not. > > And then some SDMB regulars get nasty with me because they I simply voice the opinion that it is all just stupidity drift from irrelevancy to irrelevancy. **coldfire** responded > [@](#): > > I wasn’t being viscious, my dear Reverend. You’d have noticed, trust me. > > Whether my remark was stupid - well… if you shape up and try something constructive in one of our other fine forums, then it wasn’t stupid of me to try and guide you in the right direction. If you don’t heed the advise, and carry on as you are doing now, your future on this message board will most likely be a short one, in which case my remark wasn’t stupid either. so the mods are stupid and viscious, as are the regular posters. and the rules are stupid etc etc. why on earth would anyone want to stay in such a place? on the first page of [his self proclaimed banning thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165373&highlight=mykeru+beer) **Coldfire** again noted that of his (then) 110 posts, all but 3 had been in the pit (so much for the ‘no, he’s not only posting in the pit…’ yea, with more than 97% in the pit, it’s not **all** ) anyhow, that good enough for you? I guess I can try and locate the **UncleBeer** one too, but, as I said, at least one mod had made suggestion that he try other forum, that his actions were being noticed. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/226 "2003-02-28T04:19:00Z")
OK, I suppose that may count as a warning, but then tell me again why **Coldfire** gets to tell someone what fora in which to post? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/227 "2003-02-28T04:29:25Z")
sheesh. I already talked about that. No, there’s no rule that says you have to spend your time 10% here, 15% there, **however** , I’ve noted on more than one occasion a mod suggesting to a poster that has nothing but pit responses (or like here 97%) , that they try some of the other forums. reference too, **Lynn’s** comments, that \*\*Fenris \*\* found. reference too, that ignoring mod suggestions unilaterly is a pretty good way to get banned. reference again, my comment above that if damn near all of your activity here is to bitch about how lame/wrong/idiotic/ etc the rules are here, the other posters, the mods, why on earth do you want to be here?? and that there’s some justification to kick out some one who demonstrates effectively that they don’t like anything around here. anyhow, I’ve spent way more time than I think the guy was worth. IT was clear to me (and apparently you don’t disagree strongly) that pretty much all he wanted to do was kvetch, bitch, moan, insult folks here. can you honestly think of **anyone** who posts here regularly that does that 90% of the time? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/228 "2003-02-28T04:45:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hank Fescue \* > **Manhattan** , one of your beloved Mods got away with near criminal slander. Couldn’t shine the good **Revs** shoes. > \*\* What? Really? I never heard about this! I miss so much not being part of the Cabal. _sniff_ ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/229 "2003-02-28T04:46:26Z")
**wring** , so what we’ve arrived at, then, is that it’s justifiable to ban someone who 1) posts a lot in the Pit, 2) enjoys it, 3) ignores an insupportable command to “get out of the Pit!”, 4) breaks no specific rule? In short, who doesn’t toe the line, whatever the heck that line may be? Equitable. And let’s not forget that a **moderator** went trolling on the net, away from SDMB, for ammo to use and present against **Mykeru** here. Man, how many rules does that violate? Iconsistent and absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/230 "2003-02-28T04:49:08Z")
Damn me and my fumblefingers. Here’s an extra n. “Thay may peper and solt it as they plese…” ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/231 "2003-02-28T05:24:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > **You’re saying that everything he did that has been argued was wrong was a natural and understandable reaction to the way he was treated, right? And that all the counter-examples that have been given where he overreacted in wildly abusive ways to people that actually were offering constructive advice were justifiable responses because he was already too far gone (having been ‘poked’ beyond the grasp of reason) to appreciate it?** Yes. Can’t believe I’m revisiting this BS, really, but the charge of being “wildly abusive” from you is a bit much to take. So begins the Tool thread: > [@](#): > > (Link to Personal Experiences thread) > Badly hijacked. Ongoing argument between Libertarian, iampunha, mhendo et al and the aforementioned Reverend Mykeru about whether or not it’s ok to hate people and wish cancer on them. Good guys say no, the clown of the week says yes. > > But what’s this? The entirety of his argument seems to be that since Pat Robertson was such a hateful person, and wished death on others, it’s fully justified, defensible, even necessary to wish it on him! > > Virtually every post by RM reads as a highlight reel of how to come off as the biggest idiot possible while debating, but one post in particular caught my eye and inspired me to start this thread. > > Libertarian told RM that he was just like Fred Phelps, condemning people he thinks are horrible. RM then takes this characterization, and in response – compares himself to Pat Robertson! The very same Pat Robertson he’s spent the whole thread proving was an irredeemable scumbag! A truly inspired bit of idiocy. No mistaking the criticism there. Wrong assertions aside. next bit of helpful advice: > [@](#): > > ‘Christian Coalition circle-jerk’ my fucking foot. Ad hominem. Feed the trolls. You fucking jackass. > > The fact that your reasoning is idiotic makes me a Christian? Kiss my ass. This thread wasn’t started to make ad hominems, it was started to give you a place to put your stupidity so that you wouldn’t keep fucking up other people’s threads. > > Feed the trolls? I hesitated to start this thread because I didn’t want to encourage you. You spew that kind of crap, get called out for it, respond with this kind of misdirection, and I’m the troll? Please. > > Translation: You condemn people you think are horrible. By your own admission and Lib’s statement. Like Pat Robertson, for example. You think he’s horrible and you condemn him. And then you say that Pat Robertson is horrible because he condemns people he thinks are horrible. So, no one can condemn Pat Robertson after this; it’s hypocritical. Idiotic. It makes you a jackass. A horrible jackass. Is that it? No! > [@](#): > > quote:_Originally posted by Reverend Mykeru > And it has nothing to do with the fact that Pat Robertson is a scumbag that deserves prolonged suffering at the hands of his merciless God._ > > What exactly does that have to do with? Because you won’t fucking shut up about it, will you? > > Incidentally, I totally agree with you that allegations that you’re a sock puppet are totally baseless. People, the fact that a person is intelligent enough to figure out how to code doesn’t mean he’s been here before. I’ve visited plenty of forums that use vb or Bb coding and I’m using italics and quotes in my first post. Nobody at the baseball forums I visit sometimes has ever jumped my shit for knowing how to post. Granted, I never acted like as big a boob as RM has here, but come on. That’s really pretty low, in my opinion. It’s not like he’s not giving us enough material to work with as it is. That actually was pretty ignorant if you ask me, NurseCarmen. > > Back on topic. You’re at it again, Reverend – hijacking this thread, which has an even more narrowly defined topic than the last one you did it to, to shit all over about what an asshole Pat Robertson is. Yes, we know. We know you don’t like him. We know he’s a scam artist. We know he’s not a good Christian. We know he causes untold pain and suffering by conning people into thinking he’ll cure them. We know he’s a hypocrite who won’t take his own medicine. We’ve seen the link to your site. We’ve seen the links to the books. We know you have no sympathy for him. > > Nobody but you is arguing this point. You’re having a phantom argument with phantom posters and it looks like you’re trying to hide behind it because every time you’re challenged you resort to yanking it back out again. > > Jumping in here and accusing anyone saying that a human being is deserving of sympathy regardless of his personal character is a kneejerking right-winger is just ludicrous. Asserting that iampunha is a Robertson supporter because he thinks that you are a moron is atrocious logic. > > That is what we are doing here. We are telling you that you are a shitty debater and a shitty person. (my emphasis) Based on the evidence shown today on this board, that is the only reasonable conclusion. That is what this thread is about. It’s not about whether or not Pat Robertson is a piece of shit. It’s about the fact that some people do believe in sympathy for humankind, for Robertson and for his family, and the fact that you can’t accept that as a valid point of view. I still don’t see a point to this flailing hysteria, and RM’s posts in between were actually somewhat level-headed. The point of the Tool thread was to tell the guy he was a shitty person exactly as the title implied. Says so in black and white…nice revisionist effort though. (And by the way I retract my apology. WTF was I thinking.) ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/232 "2003-02-28T05:34:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ogre \* > And let’s not forget that a **moderator** went trolling on the net, away from SDMB, for ammo to use and present against **Mykeru** here. Man, how many rules does that violate? _Trolling?_ Is that really what you meant? ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/233 "2003-02-28T06:36:22Z")
Yes, indeed. The good **Rev** was unjustifiably slagged for holding his contrary opinions. He had the infernal _nerve_ to slag others back, in the Pit, no less! The effrontry! The unfuckingmitigated gall! I love the SDMB, I really do. However, there seems to be this, well, _subhuman_ tendency among several posters and mods to drive out someone who won’t sufficiently kiss their golden asses. I find it contemptible. Before any _animals_ decide I am asking for a banning, I’m not. I simply think that too many of our regs are given a pass on some pretty heinous shit, while newbies can’t express what they have to say without the benefit of the doubt. FUCK THAT. I have seen some of the most bigotted, vile shit met with courtesy, simply because it’s presented in a “civil” fashion. I’m sure that many of you know that you “can’t polish a turd,” but where do you get off slagging someone who responds to personal insults? I am specifically referring to **White Lightening, iampunha, Jeff Olsen, UncleBeer, and Libertarian** in the infamous “Tool” thread. So, “people” attack the **Rev** mercilessly without _asking for clarifications of his views_ and they whine about getting the same back? And even (the nerve of the guy!) on his own, personal website? Seriously, who the fuck do you think you are? You slagged someone for expressing an opinion of an, IMHO, YMMV, complete waste of care and feeding, and you are shocked! shocked, I say! that he responds in kind? In the everfucking Pit? Pathetic and shameful, really. Seriously, the _only_ fuckup I see the **Rev** making is his “Countdown to banning” thread. I think some posters and mods around here need some thicker skins. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/234 "2003-02-28T06:49:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by porcupine \* > \*\*_Trolling?_ Is that really what you meant? \*\* Don’t borrow trouble, **porcupine**. I used the term in its old-school, fishing related manner. You know, like the net term really means. Trolling=fishing. And yes, it’s exactly what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/235 "2003-02-28T11:05:14Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Ogre** _: > > His first post was one of a lack of sympathy for Pat Robertson, he was told that his viewpoint wasn’t “gracious,” he essentially asked “so?” and it spiralled downward from there. No. Read the link in my last post. He was posting antagonistically about this board, its moderators and its members before the Pat Robertson thread was even a gleam in its originator’s eye. As for your response to me: if you think that **you** , after being as friendly as you can be, sticking up for someone and having it thrown back in your face would then be more restrained than I when seeing yet another piece of arrogance railing against the board… well. You must be a saint. You are all to keen to point out provocation to the poor ol’ **Rev** and yet seem totally unwilling to see his provocation to us in response. Despite your insistance on seeing us as a faceless mass of **Rev** -haters, we are actually all individuals, you know. Individuals that were each disgustingly insulted by that excuse for a human being - many of us long before we responded in kind. It cuts both ways. pan ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/236 "2003-02-28T11:32:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ogre \* > \*\*OK, I suppose that may count as a warning, but then tell me again why Coldfire gets to tell someone what fora in which to post? \*\* Had it been a warning, I would have explicitly stated so. I don’t “get to tell someone what fora in which to post” at all: I _can_, like any other poster on these boards, advise someone to lay off the agressiveness and focus on more productive areas of our fine boards. This advise may have been presented at the same time as the remark that his behaviour was being monitored by the staff, but that doesn’t mean that he was banned for merely posting in the Pit. Merely posting in the Pit (oh, OK, 97%), and in a confrontational manner just to piss people off, IS a surefire way to get your ticket punched on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/237 "2003-02-28T12:03:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ogre \* > \*\* > In the end, I think this post by **Mykeru** nicely illustrates where he was coming from: \*\* So do I, but not for the same reason. > [@](#): > > _By Reverend Whatshisname_\*\* > You will also notice in the same threads that where people had a modicum of intelligence and could carry out a discussion I responded in kind. And when someone, on a hair-trigger, opens a thread announcing that a new poster is a “fucking tool”, he deserves to get his teeth kicked in, mercilessly, forever. \*\* See the word I’ve colored red? That’s where his argument falls apart and that’s why he was banned. “Forever”. There comes a time where you need to let it go. And even if he constitutionally couldn’t, I strongly suggest that, to the best of my vast Clique[sup]tm[/sup] knowledge, if he’d taken **Coldie’s** advice and _in addition_ to fighting in the Pit, posted elsewhere and shown that he could do so in a non-confrontational way, he’d still be here. Outside of those three magic posts people keep referencing, where did he show that he had any ability to contribute anything beyond a moderately competent ability to be sarcastic? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/238 "2003-02-28T12:14:55Z")
> [@](#): > > _ **Ogre opined:** _ And let’s not forget that a moderator went trolling on the net, away from SDMB, for ammo to use and present against Mykeru here. Man, how many rules does that violate? It violates not a single goddamned rule, in that that **is not** what I did; I most fucking certainly **did not** go looking for “ammo to use against Mykeru.” I went looking to see how this guy, since he claimed to have vast Internet message board experience, had behaved and what he’d said elsewhere. You have a seriously distorted interpretation of events and reality. How is it that you think you can read my mind? For the record, here’s the what I first said about what I found: > [@](#): > > Before everyone rushes to the side of the good Reverend, or lines up against him, I suggest poking around the Internet a bit. You may find some surprising things. Then again, some of you probably won’t be surprised at what you find. I’ve seen a few unsavory items authored by him, but I’ve also seen a couple that might charitably be called inspired. My overall impression of him is one of mild distaste. The Reverend, in my opinion, is someone who thrives on controversy simply for the sake of controversy. I’d be surprised if he actually held all the views I’ve seen espoused. If that’s ammunition, it’s of a sadly inferior quality and extremely dimunitive caliber. > [@](#): > > _ **Smegma spouted:** _ I have seen some of the most bigotted, vile shit met with courtesy, simply because it’s presented in a “civil” fashion. I’m sure that many of you know that you “can’t polish a turd,” but where do you get off slagging someone who responds to personal insults? I am specifically referring to White Lightening, iampunha, Jeff Olsen, UncleBeer, and Libertarian in the infamous “Tool” thread. As you can see I only called the guy “mildly distateful.” However I also later said: > [@](#): > > Either you do not really hold this view and were attempting to court controversy, or you are morally reprehensible and ethically destitue. The choice is yours, but it’s a frying pan/fire kind of choice. I will note that just a very few lines above that I said: > [@](#): > > I have no doubt that you do not shy from controversy. I would go further though, and say you seem to court it. As for what views I’ve seen from you that I don’t really believe you hold, how about this one (scroll to the very last post) where you are speaking of teens shooting (and blowing up) their schoolmates: and that’s the extent of anything I said to Mykeru that could possibly be interpreted as “vile biogoted shit.” From that it should be pantently obvious which of the two options I stated of the Reverend that I believe. If that’s the “most bigoted vile shit” you can imagine, you’re sorely lacking in that department. Your interpretation of events and my actions is as utterly distorted as Ogre’s. And also, if you’ll review the events with a dispassionate and unbiased eye, you’ll be quick to note that the Reverend went on insulting and attacking me well after I’d quit responding to him, making appear my initial judgment of him was the correct one; he was indeed courting controversy. You and Ogre are both seriously mistaken about my actions and intentions as the record shows. > [@](#): > > Seriously, the only fuckup I see the Rev making is his “Countdown to banning” thread. I think some posters and mods around here need some thicker skins. And I think some posters around here need to reflect on the events that actually transpired, rather than making false and heated accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/239 "2003-02-28T12:47:54Z")
**Uncle Beer** , I was referring to the boards in general when I made the “vile, bigotted shit” remark. Sometimes people get called on it, sometimes they don’t. I was not accusing you of that. I was commenting on the fact that often people get slagged for no good reason other than to get a few laughs. Sometimes there’s a pile-on for no good reason, IMHO. Seems like mob rules sometimes. I hate it. YMMV However, you did chime in on the pile-on of **Rev**. I don’t care how you phrased your remarks, you jumped right in against him. Yeah, I read through all his posts. He’s abrasive. So what? If you mean me by,“some posters” making “false and heated accusations,” you are wrong. The posters I referred to in my previous post were those who jumped right in on the pile-on. You were the most civilized of them, but you still joined in. spouted! Indeed! Hmph! ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/240 "2003-02-28T14:21:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kabbes \* > **No. Read the link in my last post. He was posting antagonistically about this board, its moderators and its members before the Pat Robertson thread was even a gleam in its originator’s eye.** More revisionism. The Personal Experience and the Tool thread appeared on the same day, right after his remarks on the PR thread. All before 2/19. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/241 "2003-02-28T14:39:54Z")
AH - but he still had only 6 posts when he was berating **David B**. And there were already posts of his to that thread. It was definitely his early stuff. pan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718.md?page=13)