# Reverend Mykeru banned. SDMB Pit vultures rejoice. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718 "2003-02-26T20:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/121 "2003-02-27T03:32:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hamlet \* > \*\*Two pages later and, nope, I still don’t get it. Why do some people insist on giving this guy more credit than he deserves. Even if you believe the poor little thing was picked on, why in the world do some of you operate under the illusion that he was anything more than good with insults? \*\* I would have liked to find out, and tried a few times and got half-decent and interested responses in return, that’s why. Having to get around a posse to have a discussion in a _discussion forum_ is pretty freaking lame. Except this Pit isn’t really geared to that…I’ll figure it out someday, never mind. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by White Lightning_ > \*\* I am sorry that this thread provided a vehicle for posters with a bone to pick with you to air some baseless accusations. I didn’t intend for it to be used that way but it certainly shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me given the aggressive way I titled the thread.\*\* If you truly had no idea and _no intention_ of hosting a bashing party - then I apologize. I happened to be right there watching it unfold and it certainly looked like you did, and if I thought so, others might have too…I believe the ‘personal experience’ thread grew out of Pat Robertson’s and then there was yours. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/122 "2003-02-27T03:35:15Z")
Okay, **Ogre** , I’ll bite. \*Originally posted by \*\*super\_head \*\*\*. My comments on each in _italics_. He gave an opinion on [Scott Peterson’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=164420) strange behavior. _One post_. He talked about why people might not have been able to escape from the [nightclub fire](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=165005). _“Now, in regards to The Ace of Swords…oh wait, why bother commenting on another dumb-ass pitting instigated by someone who couldn’t handle AofS in the original thread?” Slagging the SDMB (while being acerbic and witty about the fire for several paragraphs, granted)._ He appreciated the costs of [running a board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=165131) and asked for examples of how the Chicago Reader might be liable for opinions. This turned into a flamefest after **kabbes** wrote a couple lines that could have been interpreted as a flame. _Is this one a joke? He singlehandedly dragged a totally innocent thread into flamefest territory, and might possibly have prevented **Ed Zotti** from posting some really interesting information. Regarding **kabbes** ’ comment, if you really believe that, well… you’re still not necessarily an idiot._ He defended another user against [a mischaracterization](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=165082&perpage=50&pagenumber=1) of ripping MP3s that one owns (as opposed to the SDMB being used to assist in theft of music). _“It seems as though a lot of denizens of the SDMB, including some moderators, are still hooked on phonics.” He posted exclusively to slag the SDMB._ He discussed [creationism and Intelligent Design](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=164419) with others. _Two posts. Frequently and loudly lauded by his supporters as evidence that the 98% of his posts that were in the Pit were not actually representative of his real posting style._ He gave some input on [conspiracy theories](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=163775) about the JFK assassination. _One post_. He stated an unpopular opinion, in line with the now-banned **BURNER** , that maybe[Pat Robertson](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=162952) got his just desserts, which, of course, convinced everyone that **Mykeru** was the new face of evil and must be punished accordingly. _One more post._ Five useful posts out of 129. Real big asset to the board, this guy. And on preview, **super\_head** is still arguing that Robertson caused a lot of pain and suffering. My aching head. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/123 "2003-02-27T03:51:49Z")
Hmmm…I personally think his opinion about Robertson was perfectly acceptable, and his return of insult for insult was completely understandable. Guess that means I’m completely disagreeing with your “5 out of 129” point. Thus this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/124 "2003-02-27T04:06:56Z")
Wow. The sophistry and justifications are just astounding. Guess I’ll just wait for the next newbie to express an unpopular opinion, get slagged, reply with “fuck you,” get slagged more, develop a siege mentality, and finally get banned. As I see it, **Rev** gave back what he got and some posters just couldn’t take it. Boo hoo. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/125 "2003-02-27T04:10:58Z")
It wasn’t that he gave back what he got. I can admire that he wouldn’t back down when the heat got turned on, but he developed it into a grudge, hijacking innocent threads with rails against the SDMB. He crossed the line from defense to disruption. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamburglar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@The\_Hamburglar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamburglar)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/126 "2003-02-27T04:13:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*rgnll pstd b gr \* > \*\*Hmmm… prsnll thnk hs pnn bt Rbrtsn ws prfctl ccptbl, nd hs rtrn f nslt fr inslt ws cmpltl ndrstndbl. Gss tht mns 'm cmpltl dsgrng wth yr “5 t f 129” pnt. Ths ths thrd. \*\* The Hamburglar has stolen all the vowels from this post! ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/127 "2003-02-27T04:14:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by super\_head \* > **Oh, please - spare us the sanctimonious martyr routine.** Martyr routine? Because I maintain that wishing cancer onto someone is an assholish thing to do? > [@](#): > > **Can you not appreciate the irony of his situation - and his response?** Yes, I see the irony in a faith healer getting cancer, and resorting to conventional medicine immediately. No, I do not _wish_ cancer upon said faith healer just because he’s a jackass. Seeing the irony doesn’t mean one immediately has to resort to completely bypassing all decency. Wishing cancer upon someone is fucked up. Period. ---
**Author:** ![CuriousCanuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@CuriousCanuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CuriousCanuck)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/128 "2003-02-27T04:20:00Z")
[hijack] Coldfire, it is 5:18 am where you are… go to bed already! [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/129 "2003-02-27T04:20:10Z")
Hence my “siege mentality” comment. Yeah, he could have handled it differently. I thought his “countdown to banning” thread was a very stupid move, but what led up to it was uncalled for from many of the SDMB regs. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/130 "2003-02-27T04:22:05Z")
> [@](#): > > No, I do not wish cancer upon said faith healer just because he’s a jackass. > > Seeing the irony doesn’t mean one immediately has to resort to completely bypassing all decency. Wishing cancer upon someone is fucked up. Period. Why do you think nobody should be able to disagree with you on this point? Why do you think it is utterly unjustifiable to view it as a little bit of bad karma coming home to roost? Why do you think someone should be banned because he might have a harsher outlook on justice than you do? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/131 "2003-02-27T04:24:07Z")
He obviously wasn’t banned because of how he felt about Robertson. I thought you’d picked that up by now, **Ogre**. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/132 "2003-02-27T04:26:38Z")
On the contrary. That’s what started the whole mess, and what, albeit indirectly, led to his banning. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/133 "2003-02-27T04:30:41Z")
What led up to it was his inability to keep the Robertson stuff within the appropriate threads. He developed a persecution complex and began taking it out in completely unrelated threads. See **White Lightning** ’s post timestamped 7:35 PM above. Yeah, Dopers can be a bloodthirsty bunch, but they’re also willing to let stuff die extremely quickly. Mykeru didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/134 "2003-02-27T04:31:04Z")
It’s what caught the attention. His continued hostility and assholishness led to his banning. He chose his own path. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/135 "2003-02-27T04:40:13Z")
His assholishness in response to the scorn and vitriol heaped on him liberally by other Dopers? He reacted by lashing back, and somehow that made _him_ the asshole? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/136 "2003-02-27T05:12:03Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by White Lightning_ > He had more than enough time to settle down. The thread I started with his name in the title went away on its own. His camp brought it back. He singlehandedly ruined another thread, going out of his way to shit on people that were exclusively trying to help him. When that one got closed he started one against himself. > > How much more evidence do you need that he got just what he wanted? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/137 "2003-02-27T05:18:06Z")
All the evidence I see points to the conclusion that he was ambushed heavily and justifiably wrote this board off as being ridiculously hard on newbies with different viewpoints. How much harder did you want him to try? Did you want him to recant his opinions? ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/138 "2003-02-27T05:28:35Z")
Maybe he could have gone and contributed his “unpopular opinions” to other threads in GD like **ClogBoy** suggested numerous times? No one was exactly forcing him to post only in the pit threads devoted to him, were they? He certainly had plenty of time on his hands to post here. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/139 "2003-02-27T05:56:38Z")
He got banned because he outflamed the regs that feel they are the arbiters of all that is just and holy, they got embarrassed, flamed more, whined about it, still got their asses kicked, got PETULANT, and ran him out on a rail… ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718/140 "2003-02-27T06:07:59Z")
I wouldn’t even have read this thread but for me being mentioned on Page 2 for some reason as yet unknown…but now I have a query. How do you feel, **Ogre** , about the departed poster’s tactic of lambasting members of the SDMB on his own website for things they said on the SDMB? Is that jerkish behaviour, or is it irrelevant? Sure, the SDMB has no control over what people do on their own or other webspaces. But isn’t that sort of behaviour kinda…well, I’ll avoid getting into the flames by simply referring to it as…“undesireable”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-banned-sdmb-pit-vultures-rejoice/157718.md?page=8)