# Reverend Mykeru, you are such a fucking tool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150 "2003-02-14T20:55:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reverend\_Mykeru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Reverend\_Mykeru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverend_Mykeru)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/161 "2003-02-21T18:59:32Z")

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**Epimetheus**

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> You don’t happen to be related to the Misanthropic bitch, do you?

No, but I have dealt with her before and it’s not the first time I have been compared to her. I appreciate her refined sense of compassion and her charity in providing “jack-off material for white misogynists since 1997”.

I lost sight of her once she got booted from [shutdown.com](http://shutdown.com). Oh there she is…Six years later and still doing the same shit. It’s inspiring.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/162 "2003-02-21T19:22:10Z")

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Oh, gee, now **Reverend** is trying to goad me into a Monty Python argument sketch. How amusing.

Hey, I have an idea, let’s take a poll! Anyone besides **Reverend** and **Grendel** think I was calling **Reverend** a sock? Or was I just pointing out that it makes no sense to have no email in one place yet out in the open if one just follows a link?

Please, don’t answer until you’ve seen [how I really make accusations of sockpuppetry](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2813374&highlight=senor+nifty#post2813374).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/163 "2003-02-21T20:22:33Z")

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[Two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2467364&highlight=collecting+socks#post2467364) [more](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2469224&highlight=static+cling#post2469224) accusations if further evidence is needed.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/164 "2003-02-21T20:24:26Z")

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So I gave it some time. I come back to find more distortions and bullshit about me and my position.

I won’t take responsibility for anything in this thread not posted by me. I’ve tried to clarify this, and I understand that the fact that a pileon of **RM** did in fact occur in this thread makes this difficult to accept, but I didn’t start this thread to dogpile the newbie.

I also didn’t ‘set the tone’ in my OP. As far as I’m concerned, the tone had already been set in the ‘personal experience’ thread started by **mhendo**. That thread had already gone far into ad hominem territory, with **RM** attacking **iampunha** , **Munch** , **RexDart** and **Bricker** among others. Any pileon that occurred had already begun before this thread was posted. I didn’t start anything. I moved it. Here’s a link we haven’t seen: [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2995255#post2995255)’s my post in the ‘personal experience’ thread, explaining exactly why I started this thread here.

**RM** , you maintain that we’re all so stupid that we can’t see how good and how relevant your point really was. This is the first time you’ve attempted to clarify that point, after it spawned 2 pages of bickering in **mhendo** ’s thread and 4 in this one. Until now your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson.

Above, you say I had a hysterical hissy fit (I assume you’re referring to the OP of this thread). I submit that your very next post above amounts to nothing more than a whining, puling hissy fit because **kabbes** had the nerve to say that there’s a valid point of view other than your own. You’re throwing a tantrum because I hurt your feelings by starting this thread. You go over the same, tired, hashed-out ground again. I guess you’re hoping that the rubberneckers here won’t page back to the first few posts of this thread where you tried to misrepresent my OP and your previous posts to make me look like the drooling idiot you want me to be; we’ve already been over it.

Ah, I love it: “C’mon Jeff, what’s the point of being devious when anyone can check the first page of this thread and see you are just full of crap.” Indeed.

I’ve got nothing invested in you, **Reverend Mykeru**. I started this thread because I thought there was a legitimate and interesting discussion to be had in the one you had hijacked, because I thought you had made some bad arguments there, and because I had something to say about that. I’ve said what I had to say. The thread grew from there and took off in directions that I wouldn’t have approved of if I had had any say. I am sorry that this thread provided a vehicle for posters with a bone to pick with you to air some baseless accusations. I didn’t intend for it to be used that way but it certainly shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me given the aggressive way I titled the thread.

I see that you only have the one approach here, and that you’re locked into it. I won’t be surprised when you respond to this post spitefully and maliciously, continuing to distort what I’m saying, what you’ve said, and attacking me personally. If that means you ‘win,’ then so be it. I’ve already explained what goals I had in mind when I started this thread, and those goals have been accomplished. I’m still disappointed in your adoring fans, but maybe that’s just my lack of perspective talking. Good luck around the boards and I do hope that you (and others here) enjoy your stay; I wish I could say that I look forward to future interactions between us that are less acrimonious in nature, but I don’t. I haven’t seen you show a single iota of respect to me or to anyone else here since you showed up, and I don’t have much patience for that kind of behavior.

Have a nice weekend.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/165 "2003-02-21T20:50:32Z")

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Y’know what, you’re all wrong. You’re all equally wrong.

Now can we stop this pissing contest and get on with our lives?

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/166 "2003-02-21T20:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> **Hey, I have an idea, let’s take a poll! Anyone besides Reverend and Grendel think I was calling Reverend a sock?**

I don’t want to stir the pot, but I want to point out that **I** was the one tossing accusations around. For Jeff Olsen, or anyone else, to be maligned for what I said, is wrong. I’d also like to point out that I have since apologized for making those accusations. It would seem that those accusations are rather central to the current meltdown. Let’s keep clear on who made them.

And I vow to stand firmly by each and every one of my posts _for at least sixty seconds_ after I post them.

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**Author:** ![Reverend\_Mykeru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Reverend\_Mykeru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverend_Mykeru)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/167 "2003-02-21T21:29:49Z")

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**Jeff Olsen**

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> Oh, gee, now Reverend is trying to goad me into a Monty Python argument sketch. How amusing.

No, Jeff, I’m just correcting your revisionist history.

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> Hey, I have an idea, let’s take a poll! Anyone besides Reverend and Grendel think I was calling Reverend a sock? Or was I just pointing out that it makes no sense to have no email in one place yet out in the open if one just follows a link?
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> Please, don’t answer until you’ve seen how I really make accusations of sockpuppetry.

You really have to poke your head out of this bizarro world that you inhabit. Yes, you are right. I did not place an email link in my profile in this forum. Often I don’t. Yes, I did have an email link on my website because, well, fuck, _it’s my website_, dipshit. And you know what’s even stranger? It’s not even my mail e-mail address. It’s just a disposable Yahoo email account. Why? Maybe you appreciate getting penis enlargement spam and XXX dog-fuck action spam, but I don’t, and you know, get your email address out there and the spam bots will find you.

But you knew this already. I can’t tell you anything. You are so fucking insightful.

Jeff, what does it matter how you make accusations of sock puppetry in other instances? Do you have a script that you never deviate from? Are you the love child of [B1FF](http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/b/B1FF.html) and [Eliza](http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza/eliza.html)? Is this in some way related to your tempestuous relationship with your brother? Enquiring minds want to know.

So let me get this straight. Someone accuses me of being a sock puppet. I say that I’ve been posting under “Reverend Mykeru” for years (beginning with alt.binaries.slack, if I recall) and, in fact, I have this domain in the same name.

Then you pop up and say Ah ha! But you don’t have an email link on your profile therefore how do we know that is really your web site?

Uh…you claim the guy posting as “Reverend Mykeru” is only pretending to have a domain “[mykeru.com](http://mykeru.com)”, yet you are not calling me a sock puppet? What’s your point, that’s it’s all just an incredible coincidence?

Man, you are the Zen master of moronic backpedaling.  
**White Lightning**

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> So I gave it some time. I come back to find more distortions and bullshit about me and my position.

I’m sorry, considering your posts in this thread I should have known you had proprietary control of all distortions and bullshit.

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> I won’t take responsibility for anything in this thread not posted by me. I’ve tried to clarify this, and I understand that the fact that a pileon of RM did in fact occur in this thread makes this difficult to accept, but I didn’t start this thread to dogpile the newbie.

Uh huh, you start a thread calling me a “fucking tool” and the pile on is just an incredible coincidence. I see.

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> I also didn’t ‘set the tone’ in my OP.

Sure you didn’t. A couple distortions and one outright lie in your very first post made the following posts and abberation.

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> As far as I’m concerned, the tone had already been set in the ‘personal experience’ thread started by mhendo. That thread had already gone far into ad hominem territory, with RM attacking iampunha, Munch, RexDart and Bricker among others.

And we have already seen how your statement “as far as I’m concerned” often has little to do with reality.

People can read the [first posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163126) and see that I simply stated that if we are going to have a cancer boo-hoo, it should extend to the people Robertson fleeced. Some people interpreted this as “wishing cancer” on Robertson and abuse was heaped on me, not by me. Again, if we are going to talk ad hominem, I need not remind you that I’m not the one who started this ad hominem thread. Oh wait, that wasn’t your intention. I forgot that starting a thread advertising me as a “fucking tool” was an act of sweetness and light. Silly fucking me.

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> RM, you maintain that we’re all so stupid that we can’t see how good and how relevant your point really was.

I didn’t attribute it to mere stupidity. I also suggested that your urge to pit a newbie for the fun of it also informed your decision.

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> This is the first time you’ve attempted to clarify that point, after it spawned 2 pages of bickering in mhendo’s thread and 4 in this one. Until now your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson.

I see, so I have to bring up the fact that Pat Robertson is a faith healer and has fleeced people over a long career and then runs off to traditional medicine instead of praying to Jesus without actually mentioning Pat Robertson?

From the first page, responding to charges that I was mocking the pain of a cancer sufferer:

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> You know what mockery is? Mockery is a faith healer like Robertson who gathers together the credulous and sick and lame and through deceit and psychological manipulation convinces said sick and lame to throw away their crutches, and even their medication, for no greater purpose than to clean out their wallet.
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> Robertson should be mocked. He has spend a career preying on people’s fears and infirmities and this latest “situation” just highlights his hypocrisy.

And then:

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> Frankly, considering all the vile, hateful, hurtful and intolerant things Robertson has said in his long career as a professional fund raiser for Jesus and considering not only the vast number of people he has not only fleeced, but probably sent to an earlier grave via “faith healing”, I stand by my commments.

And:

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> Tell it to the husbands, wives, children, sons, daughters, etc. of all the people Robertson has fleeced and harmed with his bogus faith healing “cures” over a very, very long career.

I don’t think that I failed to clarify. I just think you weren’t fucking paying attention. You got tunnel-vision over a sentence or two and decided to flame away.

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> Above, you say I had a hysterical hissy fit (I assume you’re referring to the OP of this thread).

Oh no, no, no. The OP in this thread is an exemplar of objectivity and temperance.

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> I submit that your very next post above amounts to nothing more than a whining, puling hissy fit because kabbes had the nerve to say that there’s a valid point of view other than your own.

Notes obvious psychological projection

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> You’re throwing a tantrum because I hurt your feelings by starting this thread.

No. First, your starting this thread in the first place was the tantrum. Second, your very first post in the thread displayed either someone who is still hooked on phonics or intentionally misconstrued in order to manufacture flame bait.

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> You go over the same, tired, hashed-out ground again.

What WL is saying here is that when he lies and distorts I’m supposed to roll over and play dead. Convenient.

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> I guess you’re hoping that the rubberneckers here won’t page back to the first few posts of this thread where you tried to misrepresent my OP and your previous posts to make me look like the drooling idiot you want me to be; we’ve already been over it.

Huh? I linked to the first page, dipshit. Not only because your opening hissy-fit is not only amusing, but it ends with a bit of bullshit about me comparing myself to Pat Robertson (where did you get that?) that gets immediately demolished.

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> Ah, I love it: “C’mon Jeff, what’s the point of being devious when anyone can check the first page of this thread and see you are just full of crap.” Indeed.

Exactly. I see your bullshit and raise you a [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163126).

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> I’ve got nothing invested in you, Reverend Mykeru. I started this thread because I thought there was a legitimate and interesting discussion to be had in the one you had hijacked,

Right, keep repeating it was a highjack and maybe someone will start to believe you.

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> because I thought you had made some bad arguments there,

Not at all like the logically air-tight erudition of your first post that not only incorrectly states my position but also contains a glaring error of attribution.

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> and because I had something to say about that. I’ve said what I had to say. The thread grew from there and took off in directions that I wouldn’t have approved of if I had had any say. I am sorry that this thread provided a vehicle for posters with a bone to pick with you to air some baseless accusations.

You set the tone in your thread title, in your first post, and your OP contains “baseless accusations”, so what in fuck are you talking about?

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> I didn’t intend for it to be used that way but it certainly shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me given the aggressive way I titled the thread.

I don’t know. Is that an admission of some kind? Probably not.

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> I see that you only have the one approach here, and that you’re locked into it. I won’t be surprised when you respond to this post spitefully and maliciously, continuing to distort what I’m saying, what you’ve said, and attacking me personally.

Pot

Kettle

Black

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> If that means you ‘win,’ then so be it.

That was a given, amateur.

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> I’ve already explained what goals I had in mind when I started this thread, and those goals have been accomplished.

And at no time did you sound like a disingenuous asshat.

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> I’m still disappointed in your adoring fans, but maybe that’s just my lack of perspective talking.

Or that fact that your righteousness isn’t as cut and dried as you think.

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> Good luck around the boards and I do hope that you (and others here) enjoy your stay; I wish I could say that I look forward to future interactions between us that are less acrimonious in nature, but I don’t. I haven’t seen you show a single iota of respect to me or to anyone else here since you showed up, and I don’t have much patience for that kind of behavior.

First, I am usually respectful to anyone making an intelligent, salient point. To that extent respect is not earned, it is assumed. But people like you can destroy any respect capital you may have very quickly.

As far as you not having patience for that kind of behavior, coming from the person who started this thread, named it and posted sheer crap right off, it sounds not only very hypocritical, but completely stupid.

Now, since you have comprehension problems I will spell it out for you: Don’t start a pit thread, name me as a “fucking tool” in it and start it off with blathering bullshit intended to distort and slander and then think I owe you respect.

And it goes without saying that you shouldn’t start anything you are incapable of finishing.

Any questions?

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**Author:** ![Reverend\_Mykeru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Reverend\_Mykeru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverend_Mykeru)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/168 "2003-02-21T21:32:36Z")

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**Super Gnat**

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> Y’know what, you’re all wrong. You’re all equally wrong.

That would be very true, except, of course, that you’re wrong.

**NurseCarmen**

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> And I vow to stand firmly by each and every one of my posts for at least sixty seconds after I post them.

Which is at least 50% longer than some people in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/169 "2003-02-21T21:58:05Z")

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You really are some piece of work, **Reverend**. I hope you stick around long enough to learn that my posts are hardly ever serious and that I do not make baseless accusations of sockpuppetry. As a Federal employee, I’m not even supposed to have an opinion!  
😃

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/170 "2003-02-21T22:33:20Z")

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Are you seriously still trying to prove that Robertson has hurt people? I say “your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson,” and, and this is staggering, your response is to quote yourself three times to show how you changed the subject to keep talking about Pat Robertson. That’s just…

I mean, that is really something.

No, you don’t have to bring up Pat Robertson without mentioning Pat Robertson. You don’t _have_ to bring up Pat Robertson at all. That’s _you_ that wants to talk about him all the time. That is, not to put too fine a point on it, why I started this thread (AGAIN): so you would have a place to argue with people about your views on Pat Robertson.

By the way, there is no debate about whether or not you hijacked **mhendo** ’s thread, despite what you may say about it. That thread was about using personal experience as a trump card in a debate over a sensitive topic, and you relentlessly dragged it onto the topic of Pat Robertson’s character. Do I really need to keep explaining that?

Anyway. I can’t believe you’re going to talk trash about my reading comprehension. Really.

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> Uh huh, you start a thread calling me a “fucking tool” and the pile on is just an incredible coincidence. I see.

You see? Do you _see_ later on where you quoted my post when I said that I was sorry the pileon occurred and that it hadn’t been my intent, though I acknowledged that it was inevitable given my thread title?

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> Is that an admission of some kind? Probably not.

I think that the fact that you can write a sentence like that with a straight face immediately after quoting me having said “I’m sorry” should make it pretty clear how far you’re willing to go to keep this conflict going.

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> You set the tone in your thread title, in your first post, and your OP contains “baseless accusations”, so what in fuck are you talking about?

Again. I didn’t set the tone. This thread was a continuation of the discussion about Pat Robertson that you started in **mhendo** ’s thread, to which there was a link in the OP of this thread. I didn’t set the tone. The tone was set in the thread that this thread sprang from. Please try to let me know which part of this you’re not understanding because I’m growing tired of explaining the same things so many times. ‘What in fuck am I talking about?’ I’m talking about how I regret that this thread got so out of hand. I apologized for that.

Look. I said my piece. Evidently your knickers are so unrecoverably twisted that you can’t let it go. You like it ‘out of hand.’ Fine. But I won’t participate in it any more. I’ve said what I had to say; I’ve made myself sufficiently clear. You keep coming back to the same points and repeating the same claims as if they haven’t been put to bed already (like asking me where my statement in the OP that you compared yourself to Robertson came from, as if I hadn’t explained it on the first page), and then when I tire of that you say it’s because I started something I can’t finish.

Well… fine. I’m done here and I’m done with you. If that makes you happy, if that makes you feel validated, gloat all you want. I’m not going to waste any more of my time repeating myself for your pleasure. Again I wish you well; again I hope you enjoy your time here at the SDMB; again I wish you a pleasant weekend.

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**Author:** ![Reverend\_Mykeru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Reverend\_Mykeru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverend_Mykeru)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/171 "2003-02-21T22:36:01Z")

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Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/172 "2003-02-21T23:51:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reverend Mykeru \*  
> \*\*Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building. \*\*

He can join civility, calm discussion, and respect for others. They left this fucking train wreck awhile ago.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/173 "2003-02-22T01:08:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by White Lightning \*  
> **So I gave it some time. I come back to find more distortions and bullshit about me and my position.**
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> The thread title set the tone, sunny Jim. Perhaps you ought to read it and consider the implications.
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> **I won’t take responsibility for anything in this thread not posted by me.**
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> You’d _better not_ take responsibility for others’ postings, otherwise you’ll come off as an even more grandiose jackass.
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> **I’ve tried to clarify this, and I understand that the fact that a pileon of RM did in fact occur in this thread makes this difficult to accept, but I didn’t start this thread to dogpile the newbie.**
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> Refer to the thread title, Sunny Jim. Where I come from (Earth) that’s known as an “insult.” You can’t be so dense as to think that some of those in the oft-referred-to other thread who so strenuously object to the **Rev’s** views wouldn’t jump in for a roasting, can you?
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> Oh wait, wait! He was insulting to others as well! A careful reading (I know you can do it) will show that he only did it after others slagged on his honesty, character, integrity, etc. Poor babies that can dish it out but can’t take it!
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> **I also didn’t ‘set the tone’ in my OP.**
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> Yes you did. Again, read the title.
> 
> **As far as I’m concerned, the tone had already been set in the ‘personal experience’ thread started by mhendo. That thread had already gone far into ad hominem territory, with RM attacking iampunha, Munch, RexDart and Bricker among others. Any pileon that occurred had already begun before this thread was posted. I didn’t start anything. I moved it. Here’s a link we haven’t seen: [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2995255#post2995255)’s my post in the ‘personal experience’ thread, explaining exactly why I started this thread here.**
> 
> My goodness! What lofty motives you have! Again, **Rev** was “punished” for holding an unpopular opinion and sticking by it. He gave as good (or better, IMHO) as he got. Boo fucking hoo.
> 
> Yes, indeed, there was a hijack. **Rev** did not instigate it. (Remember reading comprehension?) However, he responded to attacks directed at him. I suppose he should have just rolled over and said, “Ok, you win. For the sake of decorum I will surrender.” Nope. He was attacked _in that thread_ and responded in same. Frankly, I think he showed a sense of humor and restraint. But goddam, the mob _had to_ keep bringing it on.
> 
> Perhaps he should have opened his own thread about it, but other Dopers could have done the same, since they’ve been here longer. **WL** , I do give you credit for _opening_ another thread (this one), but that’s about it.
> 
> **RM, you maintain that we’re all so stupid that we can’t see how good and how relevant your point really was. This is the first time you’ve attempted to clarify that point, after it spawned 2 pages of bickering in mhendo’s thread and 4 in this one. Until now your tactic has been to talk about Pat Robertson whenever anyone says you’re changing the subject to talk about Pat Robertson.**
> 
> Not to argue the **Rev’s** points, as he is very capable of doing so without my help, but, **WL,** can you fucking read?
> 
> **Above, you say I had a hysterical hissy fit (I assume you’re referring to the OP of this thread). I submit that your very next post above amounts to nothing more than a whining, puling hissy fit because kabbes had the nerve to say that there’s a valid point of view other than your own. You’re throwing a tantrum because I hurt your feelings by starting this thread. You go over the same, tired, hashed-out ground again. I guess you’re hoping that the rubberneckers here won’t page back to the first few posts of this thread where you tried to misrepresent my OP and your previous posts to make me look like the drooling idiot you want me to be; we’ve already been over it.**
> 
> No, **WL,** this “rubbernecker” is rather amused at the phenomenon of you (and others) doing this:
> 
> Pirhanas: **Rev,** you have no point.
> 
> Rev: Perhaps you didn’t understand me, here it is again, paraphrased, and with additional references.
> 
> Pirhanas: You are being disingenuous. You are also wrong because I say you have no point. I know this instinctively and intuitively. Your “point of view” is worthless.
> 
> Rev: Ah, I see, idiots. Well, I can try again.
> 
> Pirhanas: Now you are _hijacking!_ You still have no point, and you will rue the day!
> 
> Rev: What the fuck? Well, I can try to make my point _again_ and amuse myself by belittling fools.
> 
> etc.
> 
> **Ah, I love it: “C’mon Jeff, what’s the point of being devious when anyone can check the first page of this thread and see you are just full of crap.” Indeed.**
> 
> Yes. Indeed.
> 
> **I’ve got nothing invested in you, Reverend Mykeru.**
> 
> No, just the time starting and posting to this thread…Oh, excuse me, carry on!
> 
> **I started this thread because I thought there was a legitimate and interesting discussion to be had in the one you had hijacked, because I thought you had made some bad arguments there, and because I had something to say about that. I’ve said what I had to say. The thread grew from there and took off in directions that I wouldn’t have approved of if I had had any say. I am sorry that this thread provided a vehicle for posters with a bone to pick with you to air some baseless accusations. I didn’t intend for it to be used that way but it certainly shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me given the aggressive way I titled the thread.**
> 
> What a warm, steaming, self-serving, smarmy, and transparent load of bullshit!
> 
> \*\*I see that you only have the one approach here, and that you’re locked into it. I won’t be surprised when you respond to this post spitefully and maliciously, continuing to distort what I’m saying, what you’ve said, and attacking me personally. If that means you ‘win,’ then so be it. I’ve already explained what goals I had in mind when I started this thread, and those goals have been accomplished. I’m still disappointed in your adoring fans, but maybe that’s just my lack of perspective talking. Good luck around the boards and I do hope that you (and others here) enjoy your stay; I wish I could say that I look forward to future interactions between us that are less acrimonious in nature, but I don’t. I haven’t seen you show a single iota of respect to me or to anyone else here since you showed up, and I don’t have much patience for that kind of behavior.
> 
> Have a nice weekend. \*\*

What. The. Fuck.

**WL,** you and _others_ started the personal attacks. You titled this thread with a personal insult directed at **Rev** , and you piss and moan that he’s being “malicious?”

You apparently can’t disagree with this guy without trotting out some personal attack and you whine because he fights back?

You are an incredible, drama queen, self-absorbed, narrow-minded little shit. As one of the **Rev’s** “fans,” as you so quaintly put it, I could give a ripe fuck if someone as puerile as you is “disappointed” in me. And frankly, I’m looking forward to my first serious disagreement with him on something. From what I’ve read of him, it could be hilarious to both concerned, since we both apparently don’t take ourselves so fucking seriously as you. Unlike him, I generally don’t engage in debates with idiots, unless I want to entertain myself (wait, we may have something besides a sense of humor and appreciation of sharp satire in common). I don’t think he’s an idiot at all. He just has some unpopular opinions and he’s _able to explain them coherently_.

What’s your fucking damage? Have you indulged in way too much of what you are named after?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/174 "2003-02-22T02:20:23Z")

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Thanks for proving my point oh-so eloquently **Smegma**. You are truly a man among men.

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**Author:** ![Reverend\_Mykeru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Reverend\_Mykeru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverend_Mykeru)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/175 "2003-02-22T03:26:41Z")

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Hmmn…

Anybody here? Nope…they all left. Sweet.

Eh-hem…

> [@](#):
>
> Press Release:
> 
> **Pat Robertson Underwent Surgery Today For Prostate Cancer**
> 
> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., February 17, 2003- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson underwent successful laparoscopic surgery today for the removal of his cancerous prostate gland. According to his physician the surgery went extremely well and he is alert, stable and in extremely good spirits and strangely enjoying having more instruments than can be found in a brass band up his ass. In addition to removing Robertson’s prostate, surgeon’s also freed his liver after it complained that he was a “no fun asshole”. The liver was later spotted at the Maverick Gentleman’s Club drinking shots with Jimmy Swaggert. Jim Baker was also present, but unconscious after accidentally imbibing a Cosmopolitan he had laced with roofies.
> 
> “We are all very pleased with the success of the procedure. We thank God for answering prayer and continue to pray for Pat’s full recovery,” said Michael Little, President and COO of The Christian Broadcasting Network, “The cancer, of course, we blame on Satan”, he added.  
> Dr. Robertson is expected to return to work in a few weeks to resume his duties as Chairman and CEO of The Christian Broadcasting Network, host of The 700 Club, Chancellor of Regent University and part time traffic cone.
> 
> Doctors have not disclosed what will happen to Robertson’s malignant gland which, according to orderly Manuel Ortiz, who wishes to remain anonymous but whom Robertson has already turned in to the INS, the prostate is “the size of a bagel”. The Christian Broadcasting Network has denied rumors that the prostate will be bronzed and used in a “ring toss for Jesus” promotion, stating that “we’re not married to the ring toss thing, but it will cost people, yessiree bob”.  
> The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), based in Virginia Beach, Va., is one of the largest Christian television ministries in the world. A multifaceted non-profit organization founded in 1960 by Pat Robertson, CBN provides programming by cable, broadcast and satellite to 155 countries in over 64 languages and makes absolutely no sense in any of them.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/176 "2003-02-22T03:31:06Z")

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This train wreck started with the thread title. It grew into a pile-on by gutless, overemotional little assholes on someone who _refuses to cave_ to that.

I have no problem standing up against the _lowest_ common denominator, and will gladly join another being “hassled” for their coherent, well-thought, and _substantiated_ point of view, if, in my opinion, it has merit. Call that the “Don Quixote” in me, but I hate the mindlessness of “community approval” simply for nothing more than the reaffirmation of same. As far as I’m concerned, it’s unworthy of thinking people.

And thanks, **Hamlet**. 😃

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/177 "2003-02-22T03:32:35Z")

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You too are one classy guy **Mykeru**. You can stoke those embers some more, but I doubt they’ll catch. Really classy though.

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**Author:** ![BURNER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@BURNER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BURNER)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/178 "2003-02-22T03:38:11Z")

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**Reverend Mykeru** and **P.T. Smegma** , you guys fucking rule!! You both realy post some inspired stuff.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/179 "2003-02-22T05:12:53Z")

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Yep, I’m still here. I suddenly felt the need to come clean on a few points.[list=#][_]I like to toy with people and sometimes do so without being aware of it.[_]To my knowledge, this is the first time I’ve toyed with anyone on the SDMB.[_]I honestly never expected my first post in this thread to be taken as seriously as it was.[_]The real reason I took a break from this thread is that **Reverend** ’s continued defense of a non-existant attack was so bullish it completely flummoxed me and I had to take a break.I never intended to completely leave this thread, it’s too amusing. Sort of like Howard Stern except it has Pat Robertson instead of lesbians.[/list] We all on the same page now?

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reverend-mykeru-you-are-such-a-fucking-tool/155150/180 "2003-02-22T06:07:25Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> **Yep, I’m still here. I suddenly felt the need to come clean on a few points.**
> 
> Yes?
> 
> \*\*[list=#][li]I like to toy with people and sometimes do so without being aware of it.[b/] [/li]  
> OK: Tourette’s Syndrome, tardive dyskinesia (really ought to talk to your doc about med doses), or autism (I’m sorry, really I am. And I admire the breakthrough that allows you to post!).
> 
> **[li]To my knowledge, this is the first time I’ve toyed with anyone on the SDMB.**[/li]  
> OK, so you _sort of_ admit to trolling, but not really. Check.
> 
> **[li]I honestly never expected my first post in this thread to be taken as seriously as it was.**[/li]  
> Well, perhaps you should have made that clear in said first post or the following ones, eh? ::wink, wink, nudge, nudge::
> 
> **[li]The real reason I took a break from this thread is that Reverend’s continued defense of a non-existant attack was so bullish it completely flummoxed me and I had to take a break.**[/li]  
> Ahem.
> 
> **Read the fucking thread title and the outpouring of unmitigated bullshit in the first few posts!**
> 
> Hint: They were nothing resembling other, non-attacking Pit threads I’ve read that go something like this: “ **Poster** , could I have a word with you?” No, no, no, no! It was more like: “ **Rev** , yer a fuckin’ tewl!” (the title) “You suck!,” Yer argewmints suk!," “Yer dawg won’t suk me even if’n I slather peanut butter all over my cock!” These being the OP and several of the first few posts, which I have taken the liberty of rendering with all the dignity they deserve.
> 
> **[li]I never intended to completely leave this thread, it’s too amusing. Sort of like Howard Stern except it has Pat Robertson instead of lesbians.[/list]** Whatever floats your boat, **Jeff**. I happen to like seeing sanctimonious prigs get their asses handed to them. Warms my heart, it does! [/li]  
> \*\*We all on the same page now? \*\*

Doubt it.

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