# "Revisionist History"-Not just a lefty thing.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 15, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406 "2018-09-15T20:33:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/21 "2018-09-16T12:17:01Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Is that the truth? It’s a sufficiently satisfying narrative for now. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/22 "2018-09-21T12:12:41Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I thought this story worthy of discussion especially after all the accusations of “trying to erase history” that came in the wake of the Confederate statues controversy. > > [Texas Board Votes To Cut Hillary Clinton, Helen Keller From History Courses](https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-board-votes-cut-hillary-060257161.html) I think you are not using the term “revisionist history” the way most other people do. Revisionist history is when you portray the confederacy as the rebel alliance in star wars. What the liberals are doing is trying to eliminate the glorification of the confederate Hans Solo. Stick that shit in a museum somewhere, teach it to the kids. Teach them that there was once a time in America when people glorified the generals that fought to preserve slavery in the south. Teach them that after losing, they would try to convert the war from a war against the spread of slavery to a war against a centralized federal government ([whisper]that wanted to stop the spread of slavery[/whisper]). ---
**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/23 "2018-09-21T12:54:09Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > …So replacing _real_ history with fantasy. Lovely. Am I wrong in believing that Judeo Christian values were highly influential in the lives of your founding fathers? That this influenced the documents they produced to frame the formation of your country? I suppose it would help my case if God were to have been included on occassion in important documents or speeches. If only… alas. Hate to be the one to break this to ya but, you might want to sit down for this, the notion that Christianity was immensely important in the evolution of western culture is historical fact. Demonstrable, disagreed with by the intellectual equals of climate change deniers, historical fact. The fantasy would be to claim that it was not influential. This does not speak to the historicity of any figures mentionned in the mythology, nor the authorship and authenticity of the foundational tomes. Of those I make no claim whatsoever. Were I to make a claim though, I would come down firmly in the fantasy camp. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/24 "2018-09-21T12:59:47Z")
> [@dallasnews.com](#): > > … Among the changes, board members approved the removal of several historical figures, including Clinton and Keller, from the curriculum. > > [Removals, etc. refer to mandatory curriculum. Schools or teachers are still _permitted_ to teach about Clinton or Keller.] > > The board also voted to keep in the curriculum a reference to the “heroism” of the defenders of the Alamo, which had been recommended for elimination, as well as Moses’ influence on the writing of the nation’s founding documents, multiple references to “Judeo-Christian” values and a requirement that students explain how the “Arab rejection of the State of Israel has led to ongoing conflict” in the Middle East. > > In a note next to the deletion from the third-grade social studies curriculum in which Keller was included in a lesson about “the characteristics of good citizenship,” the work group wrote, “Helen Keller does not best represent the concept of citizenship. Military and first responders are best represented.” > > [brawn beats brain. Got it] > > … Five years ago, members clashed over whether science books should have to teach an alternative to evolution. … > > [note that the debate wasn’t about _[COLOR=“Red”]permission_ to teach creationist lies, but about whether such teachings were _mandatory_.][/COLOR] > > **Remove the phrase “such as holding public officials to their word”** from a requirement that students learn “how individuals can participate voluntarily in civic affairs at state and local levels” (this phrase was removed from fourth grade for “not being grade appropriate” and from third grade for “redundancy.” > > [Hmmm. Honesty is no longer a requirement for public office? sarcasm: was this feature proposed by the Ds or the Rs?] > > … Remove the phrase “describe the optimism of the many immigrants who sought a better life in America” in a section on “social issues affecting women, minorities, children, immigrants, and urbanization.” > > [Immigrants are teh bad. Got it.] Clearly there was much partisanship in these decisions. The decision to ignore Barry Goldwater is easily understood: they’d have to admit he was trounced by a huge margin, much bigger even than Reagan’s victory over Mondale. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > That article is not available in Europe (big shocker), but if we were looking for evidence of right-wing bias in the assessment, dropping Barry Goldwater, a famously racist republican who got his ass kicked, is not exactly a knock-down argument. Both links load for me in Thailand. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/25 "2018-09-21T15:43:33Z")
One could make the argument that Hillary Clinton is so recently/currently in the news, that she doesn’t need to be part of a history course. I’m not so sure that unnamed members of the Texas legislature are four times more historically important. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![etasyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9f8e36/32.png) [@etasyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etasyde)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406/26 "2018-09-21T17:43:20Z")
It’s not revisionist when the Right Wing does it, it’s States Rights. Same as when they rewrite the expressly stated and oft repeated motives of the South in the War - that’s not revision, persay, that’s states choosing their own curriculum! Don’t you know anything? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-not-just-a-lefty-thing/821406.md?page=1)