# Revisionist history on why Biden won

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 27, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391 "2020-03-27T02:49:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/21 "2020-03-28T02:28:48Z")

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I can’t deny that he’s a mediocrity, but that could be just the medicine right now. It’s a lot better than a cranky revolutionary who just had a heart attack.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/22 "2020-03-28T02:50:08Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Remember though that SC primary was the Saturday right before Super Tuesday. So dropping out Monday before Super Tuesday was dropping out only 2 days after the previous major primary.
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> I recall a number of Sanders supporters online saying that even if Biden wins big in SC, he doesn’t have enough time for that momentum to carry him on Super Tuesday.

This. There’s nothing at all odd about the timing. SC showed that Klobuchar and Buttigieg didn’t have a chance, so they dropped out in time for their doing so to help their cause.

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/23 "2020-03-28T03:08:38Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I can’t deny that he’s a mediocrity, but that could be just the medicine right now. It’s a lot better than a cranky revolutionary who just had a heart attack.

Probably, but he’s NOT better than Elizabeth Warren, in my opinion. But the “Dems have spoken” so now we’ll see what happens in a few months.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/24 "2020-03-28T03:44:30Z")

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Elizabeth Warren was more of a “true Democrat” who could appeal to Pantsuit Nation/Resistance types better than Bernie. But she had zero appeal outside of that core, extremely loyal group of Dems.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/25 "2020-03-28T04:49:02Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I can’t deny that he’s a mediocrity, but that could be just the medicine right now. It’s a lot better than a cranky revolutionary who just had a heart attack.

At least he’d be a cranky revolutionary without a history of sexual assault. Bernie’s far from my first choice, but if Biden had stayed the fuck out, maybe a less morally reprehensible moderate could have emerged as the frontrunner. Instead, come November, I get to look forward to voting for the guy who’s attacked the fewest women. And then watching him lose to Donald fucking Trump.

On the bright side, there’s a good chance I’ll be dead of the plague or in a fire before that happens. So I got that going for me, at least.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/26 "2020-03-28T05:44:23Z")

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I’m pretty dubious of a story coming from someone who has expressed great love for Vladimir Putin and Bernie Sanders. Mighty coincidental.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/27 "2020-03-28T06:19:29Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I think I agree with everything people have posted today. Good stuff.
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> Yes, and Bernie picked that very moment after Nevada to double down on his past support for Castro. If he had pivoted at that moment to broaden his tent instead of being such a stubborn iconoclast/ideologue, he might have consolidated his strength as a frontrunner pulled the whole thing off. In fact, he might have only had to “fake it” for two or three weeks, and then it might have been too late for Biden and Bernie could go back to letting it all hang out. I’m glad he didn’t do that!

And he did it on 60 minutes!!’ What’s the demographics for that show? It’s got to be 50 plus and probably much older. All of them remember the Cold War. Praising Castro in a New England liberal arts college like the one his wife bankrupted is one thing, doing it on a tv show watched in every senior living facility is quite another

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/28 "2020-03-28T06:29:13Z")

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Right, good point!

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/29 "2020-03-28T07:53:01Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> And he did it on 60 minutes!!’ What’s the demographics for that show? It’s got to be 50 plus and probably much older. All of them remember the Cold War. Praising Castro in a New England liberal arts college like the one his wife bankrupted is one thing, doing it on a tv show watched in every senior living facility is quite another

I believe Joe Biden’s position on gun control and his implied endorsement of Beto “Hell yes we’re going to take them” O’Rourke’s platform, is every bit as stupid as Bernie’s praises of Castro.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/30 "2020-03-28T08:27:57Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> I believe Joe Biden’s position on gun control and his implied endorsement of Beto “Hell yes we’re going to take them” O’Rourke’s platform, is every bit as stupid as Bernie’s praises of Castro.

He’s won primaries. Gun control won’t be an issue

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**Author:** ![RealFDRdem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@RealFDRdem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealFDRdem)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisionist-history-on-why-biden-won/850391/31 "2020-04-15T02:49:49Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> What really galls me is that, as Chait put it, “The Sanders movement has remained genuinely indignant that it was unable to win the nomination and steer the party in a direction opposite of the desire of most of its voters by exploiting a divided opposition.” Like it was \*unfair \*of the establishment not to stay divided and let him win with a distinct minority/plurality! That’s chutzpah.

This is such nonsense. The party is in step with Sanders on virtually every issue, as many polls attest. Establishment Democrats and the media succeed once again in making Democrats afraid of their shadows. Every four years they convince the Democratic electorate not to vote the way they actually want, but the way they think will make others happy. And then every four years their “safe” choice loses. The only “unsafe” choice in the last 30 years was Barack Obama (not because he was actually left-wing in a meaningful way, but because people thought he was and he’s black) and he won. The campaign slogan should be “Let’s lose with Joe!” because then we’ll be able to keep our cushy DNC jobs. The people pushing the “electability” narrative weren’t afraid Bernie would lose, they were afraid he would win and show them the door. Sigh, even if those of us with a sense of what it would actually take to win were able to nominate our preferred candidate all we would hear is “Oh, any Democrat could have beaten Trump (or whoever)” directly contradicting what we were told during the nominating process. And when the corporate militarist “moderate” loses it’s “Oh it was so close - but if the leftie had been nominated it would have been a blowout!”. What garbage…

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