# Revisiting covid denial and covid restrictions

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932 "2024-03-13T20:32:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/201 "2024-03-19T16:22:33Z")

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> [@Lexi128](#):
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> I’ve never been tested but in 2020, after 2 COVID vacs and a booster - I suffered heart failure! I’ll never get another COVID vaccine.

Yeah, nobody’s ever had heart failure before the vaccines came along.

If you think the miniscule-y mild covid vaccine caused heart failure, what do you think a _full-blown_ case of Covid would do?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/202 "2024-03-19T16:40:08Z")

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There are millions of people walking around with these stories.  
It’s their truth.

Science or better thought out consequences will not serve them.  
Or change one brain cell.

The poster can just go believing what they believe.  
I hope they have healing for the heart failure and no more viruses come down the river 🤔.  
I draw the line tho’, if and when there’s another virus and you choose not to be vaxxed, stay away from the rest of humans who may be compromised and unable to survive your infection.

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**Author:** ![KinKStar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinkstar/32/15640_2.png) [@KinKStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KinKStar)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/203 "2024-03-19T23:50:47Z")

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I got the initial shots and then a booster which made me really sick. I woke up exactly 12 hours after getting booster shot, feeling disoriented and nauseous. If I had been alone or not able to attributed to the shot I would have really freaked out, and called 911.  
The feelings passed within an hour but I was spooked enough that I haven’t had another booster since. Having said all that I am a regular blood donor and after a donation they sent me an email, stating my blood donation showed antibodies from having had covid . . . I had not had a cold or a fever or a flu or a anything, unless it was for a couple of hours and then gone without noticing, which is not likely.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/204 "2024-03-20T00:39:36Z")

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You can still get COVID after vax. It will be milder if you’re lucky.

My husband was all vaxxed up and got it around Christmas 2023.  
He was barely sick. Just a sore throat and vague unwell stomach.  
He directly went on Paxlovid.  
Left a bad taste in his mouth.  
We sent him to the lake house for the duration.

My daughter is the only one who complained the vax made her feel ill in anyway. But she over dramatizes everything. So we were skeptical.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/205 "2024-03-20T00:50:21Z")

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Yes, the first moderna shot just hurt my arm. The second one 2 months later hurt but also fever and gunkiness which went away after a short nap.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/206 "2024-03-20T00:53:57Z")

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I have not had covid but I did get vaccinated, and have had it updated this year again. I haven’t been sick at all, no colds. I did break a hip and a kneecap but that’s different.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/207 "2024-03-20T01:04:11Z")

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> [@Lexi128](#):
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> I’ve never been tested but in 2020, after 2 COVID vacs and a booster - I suffered heart failure! I’ll never get another COVID vaccine.

A much more common cause of heart failure is the covid virus itself.

Are you overweight or obese, have high blood pressure, diabetes, or have had other cardiovascular issues like coronary artery disease? Are you older? Do you smoke or did you smoke for a long time in the past? Do you drink too much alcohol? Do you have a family history of heart failure? All are not only strongly correlated with heart failure, the mechanism for their association is well-known. Covid vaccine, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/208 "2024-03-20T02:07:09Z")

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Oh yeah? Well, I got the vaccine, and then I got a great job that I expect to keep until I retire! This vaccine is great; it turned my life around!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/209 "2024-03-20T02:13:03Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Lexi128](#):
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> Screw Fauci!!

Let’s leave the political commentary out of The Quarantine Zone. There’s no need to be this deliberately provocative in this forum.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/210 "2024-03-20T02:26:38Z")

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Am I the only one who assumed on first reading that @Lexi128 was being sarcastic?

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/211 "2024-03-20T02:29:17Z")

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No, you’re not. Still think it was sarcasm unless the poster says otherwise.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/212 "2024-03-20T02:29:54Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Am I the only one who assumed on first reading that @Lexi128 was being sarcastic?

Nope. I thought @Lexi128 was being sarcastic as well.

On another note, at one point in the lockdown Quebec had a curfew for some time.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/213 "2024-03-20T02:53:30Z")

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I didn’t think they were being sarcastic.

@lexi128, I’m sorry if my response was untoward.

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**Author:** ![Lexi128](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Lexi128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexi128)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/214 "2024-03-20T18:13:24Z")

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Thanks for your input but I have an incredible cardiac team and I do my research. Have you ever looked at the CDC reactions to the COVID vaccine.

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**Author:** ![Lexi128](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Lexi128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexi128)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/215 "2024-03-20T18:15:50Z")

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Thank you, I was not being sarcastic. If I was being sarcastic I would have added this /s

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/216 "2024-03-20T18:44:43Z")

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Oh, lord.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/217 "2024-03-20T19:34:58Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Am I the only one who assumed on first reading that @Lexi128 was being sarcastic

I asked in my reply whether they’d forgotten to add a sarcasm tag. But I see that the poster has since said that they weren’t being sarcastic.

> [@Lexi128](#):
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> Have you ever looked at the CDC reactions to the COVID vaccine.

Yes, of course. They recommended it.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/218 "2024-03-20T19:48:35Z")

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> [@Lexi128](#):
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> Have you ever looked at the CDC reactions to the COVID vaccine.

Please provide a cite that shows where the CDC recommends against the COVID vaccine due to complications like heart failure.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/219 "2024-03-20T20:41:07Z")

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> [@Lexi128](#):
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> and I do my research.

Always a bad sign.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/220 "2024-03-20T21:00:57Z")

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Who knows, maybe that poster is actually Fauci.

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