# Revisiting covid denial and covid restrictions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932 "2024-03-13T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/221 "2024-03-20T21:04:09Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > Have you ever looked at the CDC reactions to the COVID vaccine. The CDC had a little bit of soreness at the site of the injection, and it hasn’t caught covid since then. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/222 "2024-03-20T21:25:06Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Well people can’t pass it along, so why were healthy people quarantinned( sp). Don’t need an answer, just thinking. Correct, healthy, uninfected people can’t spread it to any great extent, yes. **However:** - Healthy people can _catch_ it (but not so much if they minimise contact with other people) - Apparently-healthy people can spread it if they are infected asymptomatically (but not so much if they minimise contact with other people) - Infected people who have not yet begun to show symptoms (but later will) can spread it (but not so much if they minimise contact with other people) - Testing capacity was in short supply (so it was not possible to reliably figure out who was infectious at any given moment) - Tests, when available, only show your infection status at that moment in time (so if you’re mixing with other people, yesterday’s test is quickly irrelevant) - The most commonly-available tests were not expected to be 100% accurate - The mechanisms and probabilities of infection were not clearly and completely understood, beyond ‘it seems to be pretty virulent’ - Outcomes were severe for some people, even people who seemed otherwise fit and healthy. All of those things (and no doubt other factors I haven’t thought to list) make quarantining _everyone_ a sensible precaution. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/223 "2024-03-20T21:28:36Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > Have you ever looked at the CDC reactions to the COVID vaccine. > **[COVID-19 Vaccination](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/index.html)** > > COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more. > [@](#): > > COVID-19 Vaccines Are Safe, Effective, and Free > Everyone 6 months and older should get an updated COVID-19 vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/224 "2024-03-20T22:05:05Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > I’ve never been tested but in 2020, after 2 COVID vacs and a booster - I suffered heart failure! I’ll never get another COVID vaccine. I know, right? A week after my fourth COVID booster, I tripped on a paving stone and broke my finger. Never again! Edit: /s ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/225 "2024-03-20T22:18:28Z")
I ate food this morning and now at 6pm I’m hungry. Clearly eating food causes hunger. I’m gonna stop eating. That’ll solve that problem! ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/226 "2024-03-20T22:27:07Z")
I got my moderna shots in April & June of 2021. I told people it felt like Tom Brady hit me in the arm. He then retired. You’re welcome/ Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/227 "2024-03-22T14:28:23Z")
From Katelyn Jetelina (Your Local Epidemiologist) [yourlocalepidemiologist@substack.com](mailto:yourlocalepidemiologist@substack.com) > _New info?_ A new [study](https://substack.com/redirect/9bba902d-bc38-47f5-a6f5-85227b14a5ea?j=eyJ1IjoiMTVxdnd3In0.ZHBMRtPPSgcxuo78TfB7Sk7QJ977BwJnFbc0cZlWTfE) found risk of all adverse heart events (heart attack, strokes, etc., including myocarditis) was significantly lower after infection among vaccinated people, compared to unvaccinated people. This lasted for up to 12 months for most heart outcomes. While this is not a randomized control trial, it’s an impressive study—they compared 10 million vaccinated to 10 million unvaccinated people with some nice, clean analyses. I was disappointed, though, that they didn’t assess differences in this relationship by age. > **[The role of COVID-19 vaccines in preventing post-COVID-19 thromboembolic and...](https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/2024/01/24/heartjnl-2023-323483?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)** > > Objective To study the association between COVID-19 vaccination and the risk of post-COVID-19 cardiac and thromboembolic complications. > > Methods We conducted a staggered cohort study based on national vaccination campaigns using electronic health... This is not the same as “does vaccination cause cardiac problems?” but does speak to the role of this vax in preventing post-vax, post-infection cardiac problems. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/228 "2024-03-22T15:17:15Z")
> [@susan](#): > > From Katelyn Jetelina (Your Local Epidemiologist) [yourlocalepidemiologist@substack.com](mailto:yourlocalepidemiologist@substack.com) Thanks! I was just coming in to post the exact same thing. A direct contradiction to the misinformation @Lexi128 is trying to spread. This study compared 10 million (yes you read that right) vaccinated to 10 unvaccinated. In every cardiovascular category (including the heart failure @Lexi128 is trying to imply was due to the vacciine), vaccines are PROTECTIVE following a covid infection. Some of the protective effects are huge as expected (blood clots). > **[Virus Research Roundup](https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/virus-research-roundup)** > > A dude gets 217 Covid-19 vaccines, more on long Covid, and Sweden opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Lexi128](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Lexi128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexi128)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/229 "2024-03-22T16:27:48Z")
Sorry, I missed your reply. I’m a “mature” adult over 60 who is extremely healthy except for a couple of issues that are controlled with meds. BP and auto-immunes diseases. I had the cardiac issue in March 2023 and had a stent placed in June 2023. I do nothing in excess, I weigh 120lbs. I enjoy every day to the fullest and will have an adult beverage on occasion. Have a nice day, I’m going golfing… ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/230 "2024-03-30T22:50:01Z")
I know a family where they were originally hesitant to get the vaccine. Then in late fall of 2021, they finally decided to get their shots. But by the time they decided to get the shots, they were already infected (they didn’t know it until after they decided to get the shots). The husband died. The mom & son got very sick but survived. They ended up not getting the shots. Seems they should’ve gotten the shots, but decided the opposite. The son was angry about the politics around the vaccine & covid in general, and blamed both Dems & Pubs. Everyone is entitled to their own view, but I think he was mistaken to put a pox on both houses, as the vast majority of misinformation was coming from one side. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/231 "2024-03-30T23:07:17Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > Sorry, I missed your reply. I’m a “mature” adult over 60 who is extremely healthy > [@Lexi128](#): > > except for a couple of issues that are controlled with meds. BP and auto-immunes diseases. I had the cardiac issue in March 2023 and had a stent placed in June 2023. Your definition of “extremely healthy” is . . . interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/232 "2024-03-30T23:18:56Z")
No mention of family history either. Heart disease in women can mask itself and stay hidden for a long while before you having a serious heart issue…(IANAD) ---
**Author:** ![Lexi128](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Lexi128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexi128)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/233 "2024-03-30T23:47:47Z")
Wow! For a 74 year old woman, I’m very healthy!! So how about you GFY. I’ve been on this board for less than a month and it’s not for me! Sounds too opinionated to me!! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/234 "2024-03-30T23:50:59Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > I’ve been on this board for less than a month and it’s not for me! Clearly, > [@Lexi128](#): > > So how about you GFY. > [@Lexi128](#): > > Sounds too opinionated to me!! Opinion noted. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/235 "2024-03-31T01:13:03Z")
Moderating: > [@Lexi128](#): > > So how about you GFY. This post is attacking another poster, which is only allowed in the BBQ pit. You are allowed to disagree with posts, but not attack the poster. I suggest you take a look at our TOS. (If you navigate in the hamburger menu to the FAQ, it’s very easy to get to the TOS.) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/236 "2024-03-31T02:15:49Z")
I don’t know what.GFY is. I assume it’s bad. And you’ve been modded for it. But…don’t go away mad. There are opinionated folks here. But there’s fun stuff too. Read a bunch of threads and get the lay of the land. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/237 "2024-03-31T02:39:15Z")
Go F\*\*\* Yourself is my guess. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/238 "2024-03-31T02:40:55Z")
I see. Sometimes I’m kinda slow on the uptake. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/239 "2024-03-31T02:47:32Z")
> [@Lexi128](#): > > I’ve been on this board for less than a month and it’s not for me! Sounds too opinionated to me!! It’s rich in irony though. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/240 "2024-03-31T02:57:23Z")
Do most 74 year old women use this phrase? I can’t think of many. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932.md?page=13)