# Revisiting covid denial and covid restrictions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932 "2024-03-13T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/61 "2024-03-15T00:58:37Z")
It was on Fox8news. Reporter Ed Gallek went into, I believe, the Shamrock. Let me see if I can find it. And yes, the policeman did not want me walking by myself outside after 10. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/62 "2024-03-15T01:00:14Z")
> **[I-TEAM learns some local bars ignored Governor’s order to close as...](https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/i-team-learns-some-local-bars-ignored-governors-order-to-close-as-coronavirus-spreads/)** > > The FOX 8 I-TEAM, Tuesday, found a local bar open for business days after Ohio’s Governor ordered that all bars close to help slow the spread of the coronavirus. The I-TEAM went into the Shamrock B… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/63 "2024-03-15T01:08:30Z")
I forget why you were posting this story. Sounds like the guy was violating a reasonable regulation. The news guy asked him about it. He said he was “trying to make a living.” I get it. Those were tough times. That was March 17, 2020. Practically everything was shut down, as I recall. > Sunday, Governor Mike DeWine ordered all bars and restaurants to close, saying they could stay open for take-out and delivery of food. > > The state hopes to eliminate close contact of groups of people in as many ways as possible as the coronavirus continues to spread. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/64 "2024-03-15T01:11:48Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Thats an odd statement. The official narrative must be believed at all costs. > Okay. They are all lying, you know that without even knowing them. The post you are replying to **didn’t say they were lying**. It simply says they don’t believe they never got sick. Several posters above that have pointed out ways that someone could honestly not realize they did get infected with COVID. And you even agreed that some of them were possible. This is the SDMB. Of course we’re going to believe the science over some secondhand anecdotes. I get the desire to defend your friends, but I think your defenses are misplaced. And, honestly, they are not good arguments, or really arguments at all. What does Ohio’s attempt at a curfew have to do with whether your friends got infected? Yes, we on this board stand by the science. Just like we do on evolution, global warming, and the like. It’s not a narrative. It’s just the facts from people who have the motivation and knowledge to determine them. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/65 "2024-03-15T01:12:16Z")
But there is a difference between seeking information, and seeking confirmation. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/66 "2024-03-15T01:16:09Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > A newsman went into a bar in mentor ( Ed Gallek) and asked the one guy in the bar why he was endangering everyone.🙄 I didn’t see this in your cite. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/67 "2024-03-15T01:55:32Z")
Let me see if I can find the actual video, which I saw on the news. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/68 "2024-03-15T01:57:49Z")
The most confrontational person is the bar owner, who threatened to get physical if they didn’t stop asking questions. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/69 "2024-03-15T02:07:35Z")
That looks like it happened on St. Patricks day. I remember the owner saying, " the guys fine, hes not near anyone." ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/70 "2024-03-15T02:16:20Z")
The owner was breaking the law, right? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/71 "2024-03-15T02:41:28Z")
> [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/13): > > > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > > > Its good to know it isn’t as awful as it started out to be. > > Even when it started out, something like half of the cases didn’t have any symptoms. It’s a hugely variable disease in how hard it hits folks: Ranging from “nothing” to “dead” is about the maximum amount of variability you can have. Yup, in the very first wave, my uncle and aunt died of covid, and my husband had a completely asymptomatic case. We only know he had it because he was donating blood regularly, and the red cross was testing all donors. But he didn’t even have a sniffle. That was before it mutated away from the original strain, so he and my uncle and aunt were infected by the same bug. That’s a lot of variability. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/72 "2024-03-15T02:45:31Z")
I can agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/73 "2024-03-15T03:01:40Z")
Huh. Most of the people I know who weren’t vaccinated HAVE gotten sick. S believed COVID wasn’t that bad and that doctors were diagnosing other ailments as Covid to get more money. Then she got Covid and ended up in the ICU on a respirator. She heard patients on either side die. My neighbor, V., refused vaccination and got sicker than she’d been in her life, she said. Another neighbor, J., is anti-vaxx and also got quite ill. My former student, D, refused vaccination. He died, leaving behind 4 kids and a wife He was 36. I could go on… ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/74 "2024-03-15T03:03:48Z")
Some laws should be broken, I can’t imagine anyone here thinking it was wrong of women to get abortions when they were illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/75 "2024-03-15T03:26:49Z")
There are degrees of wrongness, sometimes. An illegal back alley abortion? Yep, I would say that was wrong. An abortion a woman was coerced into, yep. Wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/76 "2024-03-15T03:38:37Z")
The fight for autonomy over one’s own body, versus the fight to ignore science and infect others. Not seeing much of a relationship between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/77 "2024-03-15T03:43:10Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Some laws should be broken Doesn’t mean that all laws should be broken. For instance, I’m not seeing a right to make a profit running a bar during a pandemic-caused curfew. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/78 "2024-03-15T05:00:43Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I don’t have Set beliefs about this; we can’t blindly believe everything. You are an Xian. You blindly believe whatever your church feeds you. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/79 "2024-03-15T05:22:57Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Everyone was told they were only allowed outside one hour a day. Still waiting for a cite on this claim, BTW. > [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/63): > > And yes, the policeman did not want me walking by myself outside after 10. Sounds like good advice to me whether or not there’s a pandemic going on. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/80 "2024-03-15T05:29:05Z")
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