# Revisiting covid denial and covid restrictions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932 "2024-03-13T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/81 "2024-03-15T05:51:30Z")
I take a COVID test every time I’m ailing, and have yet to show up positive, and I believe I had a mild case in late 2019. I’ve had 3 vaxes. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/82 "2024-03-15T16:10:06Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > When the next pandemic comes, it will be a more severe lockdown, which I plan to flout. If the next pandemic, rather than a respiratory pathogen is something more like polio, will you still be out flouting CDC advice? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/83 "2024-03-15T16:34:13Z")
> [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/81): > > > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > > > And yes, the policeman did not want me walking by myself outside after 10. > > Sounds like good advice to me whether or not there’s a pandemic going on. Nothing good happens after 10:00 p.m. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/84 "2024-03-15T16:53:55Z")
It certainly does. People were told not to be out, even distanced from anyone else. People don’t question anymore. You believe everything the powers that be tell you? You shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/85 "2024-03-15T16:56:13Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > You believe everything the powers that be tell you? > You shouldn’t. I certainly agree with this. But I do believe some things the powers that be tell me. Staying away from other people during a pandemic makes sense. Injecting bleach doesn’t. So, yes, we have to bring critical thinking into play. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/86 "2024-03-15T16:56:32Z")
The government wants the population under control. They will say anything to bring it about. Thinking people should question everything. They don’t. Yes, I will flout. Am I spelling that right? Liberty is more important than obeying. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/87 "2024-03-15T16:57:13Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/88 "2024-03-15T17:00:29Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > The government wants the population under control. They will say anything to bring it about. The world government? Or are you talking about the people in Washington, DC. Or the town council where I live? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/89 "2024-03-15T17:46:48Z")
Corona virus cases: 704,224,185 Coronavirus deaths: 7,006,066 Recoveries: 675,081,573 Personally, I know of over 20 family and close friends that died because of this pandemic, including 2 aunts, 1 uncle, and Mary, the mother of my goddaughter. Tell me again about your “right” to spread this awful disease. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/90 "2024-03-15T17:59:14Z")
I think the main danger from the government came from elected officials pandering to anti-vax nutjobs just to get their votes. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/91 "2024-03-15T18:04:08Z")
> [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/87): > > > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > > > You believe everything the powers that be tell you? > > You shouldn’t. > > I certainly agree with this. But I do believe some things the powers that be tell me. Yeah. The powers that be, for instance, tell me to stop at a red light. I know quite a lot of people – me included – who have run a red light at some point in their life with no harm done. Neither of those pieces of information means that running red lights is a good idea. > [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/88): > > Liberty is more important than obeying. How important is staying alive? How important is not killing other people? ‘I’m not gonna do that because somebody said I oughtta’ is a terrible basis for decision making. And has it occured to you that some of the people feeding you that line about liberty do want you to obey _them_? They’re just trying to ruin the chances of you listening to anybody who disagrees with them. (Partly ninjad by @Czarcasm.) I used to go around with a button that said “Question Authority.” That is indeed a good idea. But I didn’t wear a button that said “Disobey Authority No Matter What They’re Saying”. That would be a terrible idea. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/92 "2024-03-15T18:04:29Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > The government wants the population under control. They will say anything to bring it about. There is no possible benefit to the government in controlling people by having them stay indoors after 11pm except to slow the spread of a pandemic. What kind of paranoia would make a person think otherwise? Do you think the government is out taking over your village while you’re trapped indoors? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/93 "2024-03-15T18:07:46Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Some laws should be broken, I can’t imagine anyone here thinking it was wrong of women to get abortions when they were illegal. As my wife recently had a miscarriage because of Covid… Can’t properly reply here but suffice to say that that was a very ignorant thing to say **SuntanLotion**. Particularly when conservatives in many states would like to make some miscarriages to be suspicious enough so as to press charges against some women, so as to accuse them of having “abortions”. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/94 "2024-03-15T18:18:26Z")
Nope. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/95 "2024-03-15T18:21:11Z")
Abortion should be legal. Sorry to be off topic. I expressed my opinions, did nit mean to make anyone feel insulted. People should be able to express differing opinions without censure. Thanks for letting me. ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/96 "2024-03-15T18:21:15Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > If the next pandemic [snip] is something more like polio One of my grandfathers had polio. He died a few years before I was born. I was vaccinated for polio. I’ve been vaccinated 5 times for COVID, and I keep up to date on my vaccinations for influenza, meningitis, and pneumonia. (I am allegedly somewhat immunocompromised due to having no spleen.) I have yet to test positive for COVID, although I may have had an asymptomatic case at one point or another. I was sick for a few days in January 2024 and tested positive for strep and influenza at that time. To me, vaccinating, masking, and following mainstream medical advice regarding quarantines (for COVID, strep, or whatever) seem prudent and reasonable, while refusing to do so seems stupid, even if some celebrity, politician, religious figure, or unorthodox quack is in favor of refusal. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/97 "2024-03-15T18:24:20Z")
Adhering to sensible laws and mandates makes everyone safe and keeps things running smoothly. Otherwise we have some kinda survival of the fittest thing going on. As I’m not nearly the fittest I want some measure of control in these matters. If the law is bad and the population doesn’t want it there are other ways to go about getting it changed. Just disregarding the studies and medical advice is not the right way. And dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/98 "2024-03-15T18:29:22Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > People should be able to express differing opinions without censure. You are not being censured in any way, shape or form. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/99 "2024-03-15T18:36:21Z")
Not so fast, the point that still stands, coming from me, is that there were (and still are) cases of miscarriages caused by ignorant proponents of something that really has to do with freedom. But, not as the ones against mandates think freedom was. They were grossly wrong (and still are) when one takes into account the ones losing their lives when they could not have vaccines because of other conditions. That is not having freedom from harm or fear. Just because some freedom was inconvenienced is no reason to ignorantly ignore that the “freedom” defended here, by the ones against mandates, was the freedom to harm others. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/100 "2024-03-15T18:41:12Z")
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