# Revisiting covid denial and covid restrictions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932 "2024-03-13T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/101 "2024-03-15T18:41:18Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > People should be able to express differing opinions without censure. People should not expect to be able to say things that others reasonably disagree with without getting any criticism in reply. Free speech must also be free for the people who disagree with you. Not only for you to disagree with them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/102 "2024-03-15T21:35:57Z")
You know, the more modern trolls don’t even require feeding, having evolved to turn light into alkaloids via _phonysynthesis_. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/103 "2024-03-15T22:03:11Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > The government wants the population under control. They will say anything to bring it about. > . . . Dad, is that you? He could go on about seatbelt laws, daylight savings time, and building permits. And, dear god, don’t get him started about fluoride in drinking water. He didn’t go as far as Aunt D, who would loudly declaim that physical therapists only wanted to be paid to torture people. And flout is correct. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/104 "2024-03-16T14:19:31Z")
Moderating > [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/80): > > > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > > > I don’t have Set beliefs about this; we can’t blindly believe everything. > > You are an Xian. You blindly believe whatever your church feeds you. This is attacking the poster, don’t do that outside the pit. It’s also a cheap shot based on religion. From the TOS: _No slurs or cheap shots._ Do not post slurs or other cheap shots based on race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, gender orientation, or other group identity except for political affiliation or leaning ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/105 "2024-03-16T14:35:21Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Everyone was told they were only allowed outside one hour a day. Was that just Ohio? There was also a curfew of 10 p.m. guess people can catch viruses easier at night. It certainly wasn’t the case in the liberal, covid-cautious state i live in. During the depths of the lockdown, i was shopping at 11pm to avoid crowds. (There’s a 24 hour self-serve “farmstand” near me, where i could buy bread, milk, meat, eggs, and fresh vegetables. At 11pm was usually the only person in the building.) Because we were advised not to gather, everyone i know went walking for recreation. People had picnics with neighbors where they sat 6 feet apart outdoors. Do you have a cite for the actual covid restrictions in Ohio? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/106 "2024-03-16T14:48:20Z")
> **[COVID-19 Update: 21-Day Statewide Curfew](https://www.knoxhealth.com/index.php/public-health-news-articles/277-covid-19-update-21-day-statewide-curfew)** > > Knox County Ohio Health Department ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/107 "2024-03-16T14:48:53Z")
Maybe I should move to your state. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/108 "2024-03-16T14:52:24Z")
I see nothing there about staying indoors, except for the night time curfew. Sounds like you could have legally taken a walk every day and had lunch in a park with your neighbors. Also > The curfew will not apply to those going to or from work, those who have an emergency, or those who need medical care. The curfew is not intended to stop anyone from getting groceries or going to a pharmacy. Picking up carry-out or a drive-thru meal and ordering for delivery will be permitted, but serving food and drink in person must cease at 10 p.m. Sounds like my nocturnal grocery shopping would have been legal, too. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/109 "2024-03-16T14:56:02Z")
Well, lets hope theres not another lockdown.🙏 The policeman seemed to think I hadn’t be outside alone after 10. Some officers are…that way. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/110 "2024-03-16T15:57:34Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > lets hope theres not another lockdown.🙏 > The policeman seemed to think I hadn’t be outside alone after 10. Some officers are…that way. Are you female? Some people think all women should be locked up inside after dark if not escorted by a man. If they actually said ‘don’t be outside _alone_’, that seems to me more likely to be a bad case of that than of anything to do with covid. Even if you’re male, ‘don’t be outside alone’ reads to me more like a warning about a bad neighborhood, or an overreaction to some recent crime, than anything to do with covid – if you’re alone, after all, you’re not going to be infecting anybody else. So if it’s about covid they’d just have told you not to be out after curfew; not told you not to be out alone. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/111 "2024-03-16T16:00:29Z")
It was 5 ninutes to curfew. He asked if I was near home, if I needed a ride. Curfew means no being outside, alone or not. Kindof weird. Yes, female. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/112 "2024-03-16T16:03:43Z")
Let’s hope there isn’t another life threatening pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/113 "2024-03-16T16:11:23Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/114 "2024-03-16T16:12:36Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > It was 5 ninutes to curfew. He asked if I was near home, if I needed a ride. Curfew means no being outside, alone or not. Kindof weird. Yes, female. If he was worried about covid, why would he have wanted you in the car with him? Yes, kind of weird. But far more likely to be weird about Woman Out Alone than to be about covid. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/115 "2024-03-16T16:25:02Z")
> [@Stuff Scientists Have Recently Learned About Covid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-scientists-have-recently-learned-about-covid/998811/103): > > > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > > > People should be able to express differing opinions without censure. > > People should not expect to be able to say things that others reasonably disagree with without getting any criticism in reply. > > Free speech must also be free for the people who disagree with you. Not only for you to disagree with them. Yes, this. It’s so common that people figure that “free speech” means “Consequence Free Speech” If someone disagrees with your opinion, and expresses this, it’s not “censure” Put your big boy pants on. Your opinion is not a holy sacrosanct thing that must never be questioned. Some opinions are idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/116 "2024-03-16T16:27:53Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Yes, kind of weird. But far more likely to be weird about Woman Out Alone than to be about covid. Yes indeed. He may have been worried about “woman out alone when hardly anyone is around and it’s a perfect time for a sexual predator to pounce with no witnesses.” What a horrible officer for being concerned for someone’s safety. This will just lead to One World Government. \< s \> Edit: I’m still not sure how this anecdote proves that someone’s unvaccinated friends did not get covid. Seems more like a gish-gallop of antivax stories. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/117 "2024-03-16T16:37:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He may have been worried about “woman out alone when hardly anyone is around and it’s a perfect time for a sexual predator to pounce with no witnesses.” Except in practice women are more likely to be raped by someone they know – including perhaps the person who they asked to escort them. And telling women we mustn’t ever be out alone after dark puts severe restrictions on what we can do. – we’ve had whole long threads here debunking this theory that It’s Just Good Advice To Tell Women To Lock Themselves Up Unless Escorted. There’s also some possibility that it would have been a really bad idea to get into that car; though I grant that it’s more likely it was the first kind of weird. I do think most police mean well; but some of them don’t. But my main point here in this thread is that I don’t think this incident was about covid. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/118 "2024-03-16T16:44:03Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > And telling women we mustn’t ever be out alone after dark puts severe restrictions on what we can do. Yes, completely agree. I was just speculating about what the dumb-ass officer might have been thinking (“gotta protect the little wimmen-folk”) > But my main point here in this thread is that I don’t think this incident was about covid. Yep. It’s just another anecdote to support anti-vax nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/119 "2024-03-16T16:47:52Z")
No, I have walked down my neighborhood many times past 10 p.m. this was about the curfew. Not to mention my friend was told not to take his dog out in his yard after 10, when the guy is an experienced fightereta- I am not anti vax. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932/120 "2024-03-16T16:49:17Z")
Then why on earth would it have been about your being alone? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-covid-denial-and-covid-restrictions/998932.md?page=7)