# Revolution - new TV series

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 28, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672 "2012-07-28T12:49:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/21 "2012-08-18T18:51:31Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Here is some more info - at least the steam engine question gets answered. Still no explanation as to why the plane falls out of the sky (I can see engines failing, but it would still glide).
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> ['Revolution' On NBC: Jon Favreau And Eric Kripke Preview 'Sweeping' New Drama | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/revolution-nbc-jon-favreau_n_1699753.html)

From that link:

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> We actually brought a physicist into the [writers’] offices and we pitched him the concept and our secret of why it all happened … His face just lit up and he said, ‘That’s absolutely possible!’ So we did our homework and came up with something that’s actually plausible.

Any speculations about how it could happen?

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@Mister\_Owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Owl)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/22 "2012-08-18T19:32:58Z")

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> We actually brought a physicist into the [writers’] offices and we pitched him the concept and our secret of why it all happened … His face just lit up and he said, ‘That’s absolutely possible!’ So we did our homework and came up with something that’s actually plausible.

I’m getting “Lost” flashbacks and I don’t like it. Guess I’ll wait until the series wraps and is out on DVD before I dive in.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/23 "2012-08-18T19:41:34Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> It looks cool but I’m sure there will be something about it that drives me crazy. They will draw it out relentlessly, it will be full of flashbacks, some sort of soap opera issues will become central to the plot, etc.

“Sure, we’re barely hanging on in this post-tech world but last year _you slept with my brother!_”

Geez, people… priorities!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/24 "2012-08-18T20:04:20Z")

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All the images of the hot chick with the bow had me thinking “Hunger Games” clone.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/25 "2012-08-18T20:30:15Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Here is some more info - at least the steam engine question gets answered. Still no explanation as to why the plane falls out of the sky (I can see engines failing, but it would still glide).

Planes these days are fly-by-wire. Without electricity there’s no way to move the control surfaces and the aircraft will go ass over teacups pretty damn fast. It won’t so much glide as plummet and tumble with some forward momentum.

I’m also very curious about their explanation. I originally thought massive EMP – maybe from some gigantic solar flare, but then my daughter ask why the hell the guns would stop working and they’d have to rely on bows.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/26 "2012-08-18T20:46:37Z")

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So, will we see people riding bicycles? _Those_ still work, right?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/27 "2012-08-18T20:52:11Z")

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Could you start a fire with flint?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/28 "2012-08-18T20:56:48Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Could you start a fire with flint?

No, but I could with Lady Jaye! 😃

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/29 "2012-08-18T21:51:45Z")

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There are candles, so I assume fire works.

Brian

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/30 "2012-08-19T00:49:11Z")

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I’m sure it’ll be standard TV soap opera fare, just set in that world. Networks rarely do anything new or experimental or the least bit challenging. They gotta’ sell ad time. “Terra Nova”, anyone?

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/31 "2012-08-19T16:43:38Z")

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I just feel burned by so many of these types of shows that may or may not start off really good, and they turn into a puddle of lame soap opera subplots and stereotypical plots and flashbacks and…then canceled.

I know there are some LOST fans here, but for me, the first few seasons were pretty good but then it got to be almost impossible to follow what the hell was happening and I pretty much didn’t care anymore. Seemed like they were pulling things out of their ass and it made no sense whatsoever. They tried to wrap it up in a pretty bow at the end, but it just pissed me off.

Thus, I will read threads on Revolution and wait until they are in season three or so before even bothering to waste my time on what probably will be another crash and burn series that will be canceled before it is resolved.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/32 "2012-08-19T18:28:32Z")

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I would almost watch the last few seasons of Lost if someone cut out all the flashbacks. Almost.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/33 "2012-08-19T22:51:09Z")

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After reading the article (and sitting through roughly 3,000 promo spots on NBC), I’m picking up an unsettling similarity to Y: The Last Man. If you recall, the premise of that lengthy graphic series was that every male human in the world except one died under mysterious circumstances. So naturally, we’re treated to scads of pointless violence, torture, power ploys between treacherous, bloodthirsty factions, and plenty of catty sniping. And of course, the almighty ironclad law that no one can even _talk_ about sex ever at all\*, including the ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY scene where the hero walks in on two women having sex (after which, of course, they act shocked and stop completely and never never never think of having sex again instead of just throwing the damn klutz out of the room). Swear to god, this made 300 look like a Nobel Prize winner.

That’s what I can’t stand, introducing an amazing, novel concept and then _utterly wasting it_ with predictable cliche crap. I can almost guarantee you that we will not get any serious discussions about reshaping government, remaking society, nihilism, religion, resource conservation, nature, traditional gender roles, etc., let alone any kind of plot or action along those lines. From the linked article, what we _can_ expect is plenty of cheesy TV-safe chopsocky and lots of nitpicky squabbling over what should and shouldn’t still work.

Blech. Fine, I’ll catch the first couple of episodes, but if this turns into a poor man’s Xena: Warrior Princess, include me out.

- Alison Bechdel knew that this would be an issue for Dykes To Watch Out For and handled it skillfully and maturely. The best one, IMO, was where Lois admits that it’s a little pathetic for someone to be so obsessed with sex, while at the same time acknowledging that that’s not going to stop her from having it.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/34 "2012-08-20T01:29:56Z")

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Yeah, I was wondering about bicycles too. But as far as no electrical power, wouldn’t there have to be something suppressing the use of electricity? I mean, even if everything got wiped out in an EMP or something, we’d still have the knowledge to make things work again. We wouldn’t be starting from scratch. Ancient people didn’t harness the power of electricity, but eventually humans figured it out and that stuff was written down so, couldn’t someone just say “oh, hey, here’s how you do it.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/35 "2012-08-20T02:43:26Z")

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> [@charmstr](#):
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> It’s a whole series of books (I think they’re referring to them as _The Emberverse_ now but I have no idea what that means).

The first novel in [the series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emberverse) is called _Dies the Fire._ What is left when a fire dies?

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/36 "2012-08-20T03:37:39Z")

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> [@charmstr](#):
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> It’s a whole series of books (I think they’re referring to them as _The Emberverse_ now but I have no idea what that means).

Without electricity, your ems get cold.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/37 "2012-09-14T16:29:00Z")

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I watched the first episode. It was okay. The minor twists they revealed early on were telegraphed and easily guessed. I liked the characters well enough so far to keep watching.

The backward crossbows bugged the shit out of me. I can’t figure out how those are supposed to work. Are they real, or made up for the show?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/38 "2012-09-15T04:54:41Z")

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I watched the pilot tonight also, and thought it looked like it might be good. The actors seemed a tad “pretty” but that’s TV for you, I guess.

I liked the “ice cream” scene.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/39 "2012-09-17T17:15:10Z")

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Just a reminder that the 1st episiode airs tonight on NBC

(mostly a reminder to myself tio record it as I won’t be home)

Brian

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-new-tv-series/629672/40 "2012-09-17T18:31:44Z")

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You also have to add to the explaination the twist that somehow the power _does_ still work for someone and that there is a way to turn it _back on_. So whatever happened is not permanent, yet somehow prevents steam power, solar power, wind power and hydroelectricity to fail.

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