# Revolution - Season Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036 "2012-09-18T02:24:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/41 "2012-09-19T22:44:49Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Here’s my physics-wank…the secret lab created a field generator that altered the very nature of pi itself. Pi is no longer a constant, but constantly fluctuates chaotically, making anything dependent on cyclic processes immediately fail. Perfect spheres and circles, as we know them, cease to exist, or only in a brief ephemeral state. Therefore, anything rotary or magnetic will sieze up in a mechanical mess.
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> A side effect of this is that small fibres, such as hair and clothes, are easily able to repel small round particulates like dust, and have given an unanticipated boon to the cleanliness and upkeep of hair and fabrics.

Let us know when they give you a TV show – I definitely want to watch it.

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/42 "2012-09-19T23:51:21Z")

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I watched most of the pilot, and I wasn’t impressed. The premise is all right, but I feel like I’ve been given zero reason to care what happens to all these people. The characters aren’t interesting or engaging.

Oh, and the perfect clothes and hair drove me nuts too.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/43 "2012-09-20T03:51:53Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Here’s my physics-wank…the secret lab created a field generator that altered the very nature of pi itself. Pi is no longer a constant, but constantly fluctuates chaotically, making anything dependent on cyclic processes immediately fail. Perfect spheres and circles, as we know them, cease to exist, or only in a brief ephemeral state. Therefore, anything rotary or magnetic will sieze up in a mechanical mess.
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> A side effect of this is that small fibres, such as hair and clothes, are easily able to repel small round particulates like dust, and have given an unanticipated boon to the cleanliness and upkeep of hair and fabrics.

I’m really hoping that at some point we’ll be given an explanation that makes sense, not just expected to not notice that batteries aren’t the same as electrical current operating a lighbulb.

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**Author:** ![ThirdCultureKid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@ThirdCultureKid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThirdCultureKid)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/44 "2012-09-20T06:44:44Z")

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Todd VanDerWerff has an interesting piece over at the [AV Club](http://www.avclub.com/articles/revolution,84860/) that talks about the lack of realistic political fallout in the wave of technological collapse. By moving the central plot away from conceptual challenges (and, as others have noted, more interesting fringe characters) as well as into the hands of adolescents, they have inherently weakened the quality of storytelling.

Subconsciously, I think I’m comparing this show to Dollhouse, which introduced a futuristic technology almost as an assisting plot device, and then delved deep into the social and political ramifications of its widespread release.

Then again, Joss Whedon would have known which main characters to pick (see: Firefly = the Adventures of Han and Chewy), so my expectations of this show are suitably low.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/45 "2012-09-20T13:10:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m really hoping that at some point we’ll be given an explanation that makes sense, not just expected to not notice that batteries aren’t the same as electrical current operating a lighbulb.

Why wait for an explanation? So you can pick apart its flaws? There is NO plausible explanation. Your choices are no explanation and just go with the premise, or be pissed off at contrived explanation. I choose the former, my eyes roll enough watching TV.

And what moron puts a huge tattoo of the first initial of his last name on his forearm? And how did he get a field commission? Yes, the second question was tongue-in-cheek for the sarcasm impaired.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/46 "2012-09-20T13:28:48Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> And what moron puts a huge tattoo of the first initial of his last name on his forearm? And how did he get a field commission? Yes, the second question was tongue-in-cheek for the sarcasm impaired.

And how is a tatoo of your first initial considered valid ID to enter a military base? Because he’s known as the only D-bag in the world who would do such a thing?  
I only caught the last few minutes so I don’t really know what was going on. All I saw was White Eli, Hunger Games, Samwise Gamgee, and some Taylor Lautner clone with a longbow goning to town on a bunch of extras from The Postman armed with crossbows and muskets.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/47 "2012-09-20T14:05:35Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I only caught the last few minutes so I don’t really know what was going on. All I saw was White Eli, Hunger Games, Samwise Gamgee, and some Taylor Lautner clone with a longbow goning to town on a bunch of extras from The Postman armed with crossbows and muskets.

Emphasis added. Yes, you really do.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/48 "2012-09-20T14:06:16Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> And how is a tatoo of your first initial considered valid ID to enter a military base? Because he’s known as the only D-bag in the world who would do such a thing?

I kind of had the impression of some association between Tattoo Jerk and the gate guard.

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**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/49 "2012-09-20T14:24:13Z")

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I’m \*\*really \*\*not fond of the lady with the wavy blond hair. She just aggravates the crap out of me for no reason! Don’t understand it at all.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/50 "2012-09-20T15:16:00Z")

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> [@mage-girl](#):
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> I’m \*\*really \*\*not fond of the lady with the wavy blond hair. She just aggravates the crap out of me for no reason! Don’t understand it at all.

Maybe because you hated _Terra Nova_, and she was on that show, too? 😉

Who is the actor that played the black militia unit head that took the kid? I couldn’t find him in the IMDB entry for the show, and he looks extremely familiar to me.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/51 "2012-09-20T15:16:26Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Why wait for an explanation? So you can pick apart its flaws?\<snip\>

You betcha! 😃

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/52 "2012-09-20T15:18:03Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> I kind of had the impression of some association between Tattoo Jerk and the gate guard.

I had the impression that the Morgan crowd is behind the lights going out because of the gate scene.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/53 "2012-09-20T15:18:09Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> Maybe because you hated _Terra Nova_, and she was on that show, too? 😉
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> Who is the actor that played the black militia unit head that took the kid? I couldn’t find him in the IMDB entry for the show, and he looks extremely familiar to me.

Sydney Glass from Once Upon a Time.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/54 "2012-09-20T15:19:31Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Sydney Glass from Once Upon a Time.

Bingo!

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/55 "2012-09-20T15:35:47Z")

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FTR, I’ve never watched _Breaking Bad_, so I had no clue who Gus Fring was.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/56 "2012-09-20T16:12:21Z")

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> [@Mister\_Owl](#):
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> Regarding the similarity to Lost all I will say is; Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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> I am putting in my wager now that the whole “a physicist (or whatever sort of scientist they claim to have consulted,) says it is totally plausible” is going to have the same outcome as Lost did.

I agree. If the show was just about exploring a world in which electricity was eliminated by magic, I might like to watch. But they’ve introduced this overall storyline that the reason behind the change is explainable and that some people still have electricity. That reminds me of the promises we were given that everything that happened on that island in Lost was going to be explained without resorting to the supernatural, but they never did explain everything and the ultimate explanation _was_ supernatural.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/57 "2012-09-20T16:29:43Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Sydney Glass from Once Upon a Time.

Gus Fring from Breaking Bad would have been my first. Or Yaphet Kotto’s son from Homicide.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/58 "2012-09-20T17:05:01Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> FTR, I’ve never watched _Breaking Bad_, so I had no clue who Gus Fring was.

He had a minor part in _OUaT_, but his character in _Breaking Bad_ was brilliant. I don’t think you can appreciate his acting ability from the former.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/59 "2012-09-20T17:27:05Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> It’s always insightful to see just what breaks each individual’s suspension of disbelief. For me, right at the very beginning, the falling plane did it. Perhaps if it was in a sharp turn near an airport where it was climbing or descending, but otherwise, planes will not just drop in a spin like that.

Yeah, that bugged me as well. I couldn’t figure out why the planes would \*literally \*be falling out of the sky in flat spins.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/60 "2012-09-20T17:42:22Z")

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I had the same problem, but considering they were in Chicago most planes in the area would probably be in the process of descent for landing or taking off. Don’t know how more likely that would make it.

What I wondered was how the wave of whatever happened propagated. Planes were falling out of the sky before all of the city lights were out. And on the highway, the cars were dying in a nice relatively slowly paced progression so whatever it was did move in a wave but a very slow one.

My interest is going to depend a lot on how much attention is paid to the mechanic of electricity turning off and how much is spent on just the reality that it happened. Too much of the former and any explanation they give is likely to be too stupid.

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