# Revolution - Season Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036 "2012-09-18T02:24:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/161 "2012-11-14T16:32:29Z")

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Yeah, if you have to put song credits on the screen then you’re doing scifi drama wrong. We don’t need Zeppelin (not that Zeppelin isn’t great), we need coherent plots.

Another character needs to die, that’s the only thing that would make sense. They are getting away with far too much to be believable. Food just isn’t a concern, where are they getting food from? It never snows or rains any more either.

And I was confused, who was the prisoner that Charlie’s mother tried to con into revealing the location of the necklace? Was he the DOD guy? Who was in the silo/collider with the short-haired black lady? Wasn’t that the DOD guy?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/162 "2012-11-14T20:58:08Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> Just watching last nights episode. So basically the heroes can run circles around militia any time they want. They get chased off by automatic rifles and there were soldiers all over the bridge but when they come back to rescue bra lady’s sister all it takes is a couple sticks of dynamite and they immediately rescue the her and run off. That was easy.

I’m not going to defend this show’s writing, but they were allowed to rescue her. Remember how it was all a trick?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/163 "2012-11-14T21:06:22Z")

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I haven’t watched the show since about the second week, so can anyone tell me if the characters still have perfect, shampooed hair and clean clothes? And are they any closer to revealing the big secret about how the pendants can be used to restore electricity?

I was interested in the show until it became obvious that they were going to tease out stuff like the bit with the pendants over many episodes.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/164 "2012-11-14T21:20:00Z")

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I assume there is some kind of Earth-wide field that dampens electricity and the pendants block/repulse that field. I don’t think they are “teasing out” anything, it’s just going to be some made up science that won’t affect the plot at all. All we need to know now is whether these pendants’ area of effect can be expanded or the field permanently cleared.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/165 "2012-11-14T22:50:31Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m not going to defend this show’s writing, but they were allowed to rescue her. Remember how it was all a trick?

Yep I was posting during the episode, didn’t realize it would turn into yet another twist.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/166 "2013-03-25T12:37:14Z")

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Just a note that new episodes start tonight.

Does anyone remember what was happening? I assume/hope they will start with a “previously on” segment.

Brian

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/167 "2013-03-25T13:00:55Z")

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Bad guy had a helicopter, was coming after escaped family.

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**Author:** ![Phatt\_Ded\_AElvys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c77e96/32.png) [@Phatt\_Ded\_AElvys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phatt_Ded_AElvys)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/168 "2013-03-26T03:15:01Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Does anyone remember what was happening?

It’s complicated.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/169 "2013-03-27T17:28:52Z")

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Juliette, I mean Rachel, used that phrase at least twice.

Once started I’m not sure a turbine needs electricity to keep working, but some of the controls might need it.

Brian

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/170 "2013-03-27T22:48:46Z")

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So did uncle miles have a little affair with mom or what?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/171 "2013-03-28T00:26:14Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> So did uncle miles have a little affair with mom or what?

‘little’ ? I think \_everybodys had an affair with her at this point.

I will applaud the show - they actually killed the kid.

Of course - mom had to get the implant - good thing the bullet missed it by ’ ’ this much.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/172 "2013-04-11T01:02:31Z")

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I only started watching this this week. I’m 3 episodes in. It’s enjoyable enough hokum so far. Is it worth watching the whole season?

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/173 "2013-04-11T02:51:39Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> I only started watching this this week. I’m 3 episodes in. It’s enjoyable enough hokum so far. Is it worth watching the whole season?

Yeah each episode is fairly unique so if you liked the last 3 you’d probably like the others.

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/174 "2013-04-11T15:53:36Z")

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I was pleasantly surprised at the reveal of what was actually causing the worldwide blackout. I mean, it was still sci-fi nonsense, but at least it was unexpected (to me) sci-fi nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/175 "2013-04-11T21:22:19Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> ‘little’ ? I think \_everybodys had an affair with her at this point.
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> I will applaud the show - they actually killed the kid.
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> Of course - mom had to get the implant - good thing the bullet missed it by ’ ’ this much.

I suspect Uncle Miles had been hiding his salami in Rachel and we will someday find out that Charlie or dead brother is actually Miles’ kid.

WTF was the implant all about? Have we seen any prior reference to that?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/176 "2013-04-12T07:28:02Z")

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> [@Meltdown](#):
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> I was pleasantly surprised at the reveal of what was actually causing the worldwide blackout. I mean, it was still sci-fi nonsense, but at least it was unexpected (to me) sci-fi nonsense.

What was it?

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/177 "2013-04-12T13:12:16Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> What was it?

They had made billions of microscopic nano-machines that consume electricity and reproduce. I think they were only supposed to deploy in Iraq but they got out of control and now they blanket the Earth, blonde mom said they are breathing them in as she speaks (wouldn’t that be bad for your heart and brain?) Anyway there is a facility called The Tower that used to have some sort of control over them, so blonde mom and beard guy are going on a suicide mission there. Charlie made a half-hearted attempt to go with her but didn’t persist for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/178 "2013-04-12T14:07:58Z")

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How did the blackout propogate so quickly? Didn’t it encompass the whole planet in just a few minutes or less?

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/179 "2013-04-12T14:14:12Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> They had made billions of microscopic nano-machines that consume electricity and reproduce. I think they were only supposed to deploy in Iraq but they got out of control and now they blanket the Earth, blonde mom said they are breathing them in as she speaks (wouldn’t that be bad for your heart and brain?) Anyway there is a facility called The Tower that used to have some sort of control over them, so blonde mom and beard guy are going on a suicide mission there. Charlie made a half-hearted attempt to go with her but didn’t persist for some reason.

Let’s face it. It’s hocus-pocus. Magic. Voodoo. Whatever. But taking it at face value, Rachel told Aaron (I had to google those names because this is pretty much a background noise show for me) that there were “two hundred quadrillion” (i.e. 200 **×** 10[sup]15[/sup]) bots in the Earth’s atmosphere which meant that he was likely breathing them as they talked. This sounded dubious to me as the Earth’s atmosphere is really, really big so I crunched the numbers (correctly I hope):

[The “effective volume” of the Earth’s atmosphere](http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_volume_of_Earth%27s_atmosphere) is about **4.2 billion cubic kilometers**. This figure is the surface area of the Earth (509 million square kilometers) times the “effective thickness” of the atmosphere (8.2 kilometers, or about 27,000 ft). The effective thickness and volume are what the thickness and volume of the atmosphere would be if the entire atmosphere were at sea level conditions.

200 quadrillion bots / 4.2 billion cubic kilometers = **47.6 million bots per cubic kilometer.**

Tidal volume: that volume of air moved into or out of the lungs during quiet breathing. [This is about 0.5 liters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_volumes#Values) for an adult human, male or female.

There are 1 trillion liters in a cubic km, i.e. 2 trillion breaths. So if the little suckers were evenly distributed…

2 trillion breaths / 47.6 million nanobots ≈ **42,000 breaths per nanobot.**

Let’s assume 24 breaths per minute. A bit on the [high end of range](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_rate#By_age), but Aaron doesn’t seem particularly fit.

42,000 / 24 = 1750 minutes ≈ 29 hours. So a **little less than one bot inhaled per day** assuming my math is correct. (It’s early morning here on the west coast.)

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolution-season-thread/635036/180 "2013-04-12T14:30:18Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> How did the blackout propogate so quickly? Didn’t it encompass the whole planet in just a few minutes or less?

I believe I heard that they were already dispersed (propagating?) in the atmosphere and then got switched on or activated somehow. As I said earlier, I don’t pay close attention unless something interesting happens so have they explained how the [del]midi-chlorians[/del] nanobots suppress electricity in things like cars and radios but not in biological systems?

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