# Reworking of the official superman costume from new movie

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 1, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973 "2005-05-01T19:41:45Z")
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### Author: ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/1 "2005-05-01T19:41:45Z")

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Accidentally stumbled across a fans reworking of the official Superman costume from the new Supes film. I think it addresses many of the issues and it works, on the whole, much better for me.

compare:

[Fan reworking](http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/superman/new-costume.jpg)

[Official costume](http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/superman/new_superman.jpg)  
What do the dopers think?

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/2 "2005-05-01T19:44:18Z")

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Lacking a witty way to put this: What’s the difference?

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### Author: ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/3 "2005-05-01T19:49:21Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Lacking a witty way to put this: What’s the difference?

The trunks are bit larger.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/4 "2005-05-01T19:51:37Z")

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Ah, I didn’t realize the changes were subtle. I couldn’t notice them until I tiled the browser windows. The logo is smaller too.

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### Author: ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/5 "2005-05-01T19:56:23Z")

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The symbol is larger, the neck is lower, the trunks are bigger and the reds are brighter. I like it.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/6 "2005-05-01T20:03:51Z")

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Oh I got them the wrong way round.

I don’t like the trunks being larger. Makes him look like sixties surfer dude. Oversize logo is too comedic.

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### Author: ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/7 "2005-05-01T20:07:00Z")

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I think the touch-ups were supposed to bring the costume more in line with the one in the original movies with Reeves. At least that is what it looks like to me.

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### Author: ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/8 "2005-05-01T20:07:23Z")

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The logo _is_ a bit much.

I wonder if it peels off…

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/9 "2005-05-01T20:14:21Z")

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Why does he even need to bother with a costume? We all know he becomes totally unrecognisable when he puts on his specs.

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### Author: ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/10 "2005-05-01T21:33:54Z")

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The cape is also attached at the shoulders, as appropriate. Personally, the trunks I could go either way on. The larger logo, I prefer, but I think if he twists his torso, it might not bend right.  
The cape is much better.

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### Author: ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/11 "2005-05-01T21:47:02Z")

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Both look a bit retro. Of course, that may be the look they’re going for. Me, I’d like something a bit darker.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/12 "2005-05-01T21:51:46Z")

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!!! Didn’t even know they were making a new Superman movie! But here it is on the imdb – _Superman Returns:_ [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/)

Sure hope it’s way better than _Superman III_ . . . or [_sob_] _Superman IV_ . . .

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### Author: ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/13 "2005-05-01T21:56:47Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Sure hope it’s way better than _Superman III_ . . . or [_sob_] _Superman IV_ . . .

You must be delusional. There was no III or IV.

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/14 "2005-05-01T23:29:18Z")

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Aren’t the boot tops a little higher in the revised outfit?

I would get rid of the “reverse color” “S” belt buckle. It sort of says to me, “Superman is having a wee identity crisis. He’s not sure how his logo should look, and wants to remind you he’s Superman.”

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### Author: ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/15 "2005-05-01T23:31:54Z")

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> [@Beware of Doug](#):
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> Aren’t the boot tops a little higher in the revised outfit?

Yep. about an inch or so.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/16 "2005-05-02T02:03:53Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> The cape is also attached at the shoulders, as appropriate.

**NO CAPES!**

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### Author: ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/17 "2005-05-02T02:13:55Z")

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But if they redesign the costume, wouldn’t this affect his flying abilities?  
After all, it’s the _costume_ that makes him fly. Right?

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### Author: ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/18 "2005-05-02T02:52:07Z")

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> [@wolf\_meister](#):
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> But if they redesign the costume, wouldn’t this affect his flying abilities?  
> After all, it’s the _costume_ that makes him fly. Right?

That’s right…the cape, to be exact.

The ones in the Halloween costumes never worked, though, sadly. ☹

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/19 "2005-05-03T16:34:43Z")

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Another unfortunate connotation of the S-logo belt buckle:  
“Look! It’s **Superdick**!”

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reworking-of-the-official-superman-costume-from-new-movie/301973/20 "2005-05-03T17:11:12Z")

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Why does Superman even _need_ a costume?

Who’s gonna make him wear one?  
Think of the advantages:

1.) No Cape!

2.) Makes it easier to hide his Secret Identity, since no one looks at his face

3.) No need to worry about rips, tears, burns, or improbable explanations about how his costume is “super”, too.

4.) It puts him on a level with Dr. Manhattan (at least from late in the series Watchmen)

5.) No need to hide that damned cape
