# RFK Jr. files whistleblower suit against Diebold **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 17, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848 "2006-07-17T13:48:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/141 "2006-07-24T14:42:05Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Cite? [/QUOTE] It was in the cite I gave in that post. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/142 "2006-07-24T18:04:58Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] [shrug] For my part, if there were still a Dem equivalent of the Daly machine in some city crediting itself with dead people’s votes every election, that would piss me off too, **big time.** [/quote] Suuuuure it would. Pull the other one - it’s got bells on it. > [@](#): > > Let’s see . . . bitch-slapping a Capitol cop . . . rigging elections . . . > > Children, can you say “false equivalence”? > > I knew you could! 🙂 I can, but obviously it doesn’t do any good. Anyone who first posts this kind of straightforward commitment to the principle of “It’s OK if a Democrat Does It” and then tries to set himself up as a disinterested moral beacon who just wants what’s fair, will have a bit of a sales job for anyone who can even look up the word “skeptical” in the dictionary. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/143 "2006-07-24T18:09:51Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] …nearly all of these discrepancies favored Bush. Do you really believe that this is mere chance? [/QUOTE] The Lord moves in mysterious ways to promote His candidates. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/144 "2006-07-24T20:55:29Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Suuuuure it would. Pull the other one - it’s got bells on it. I can, but obviously it doesn’t do any good. Anyone who first posts this kind of straightforward commitment to the principle of “It’s OK if a Democrat Does It” and then tries to set himself up as a disinterested moral beacon who just wants what’s fair, will have a bit of a sales job for anyone who can even look up the word “skeptical” in the dictionary. [/QUOTE] Summary: **BrainGlutton’s** lying. If you’re going to simply disbelieve what another poster says, then there’s no debate. You’re just wasting everyone’s time. Put forth one instance of **BrainGlutton** saying, “It’s OK if a Democrat does it.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/145 "2006-07-24T21:16:07Z")
[QUOTE=bup] Put forth one instance of **BrainGlutton** saying, “It’s OK if a Democrat does it.” [/QUOTE] I **did** once, in the Pit, defend Cynthia McKinnon’s political value (having called for Bush’s impeachment) as outweighing the gravity of her offense in getting into it with a Capitol cop, and I’ll stand by it; but that’s case-specific – I wouldn’t such excuses for just **any** Democrat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/146 "2006-10-04T20:17:24Z")
Update: Kennedy has a lengthy new [article](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked) in _Rolling Stone_ on this topic. After the suit was initially filed the judge ordered the case sealed for 60 days – that time has elapsed, but there does not seem to have been any more recent news coverage, that I can find by googling. Wonder why not. Here’s an interesting [article](http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2844/) from the current issue of _In These Times._ It deconstructs the Princeton Study of the 2004 exit polls, putting a very different interpretation on it than I’ve seen in GD so far. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/147 "2006-10-05T00:13:04Z")
The Brad blog has coverered these machines since 2000. They have printed whistle blowers stories and have an almost daily story about the machines. The info has been available for a long ,long, time.They have archived many stories. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/148 "2006-10-05T00:46:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You care when you lose. Or maybe I should say you only pay attention when you lose. It’s not about concern for the Dems for fair elections - just the ones they lose. […] > > Pull the other one - it’s got bells on it. **Shodan** , you’re giving the impression that you’re just trying to change the subject away from the issue of vote suppression to the issue of Democrat partisanship. Just a reminder: even if every Democrat/liberal on the planet really didn’t care at all about vote suppression unless it had disadvantageous effects for Democratic candidates, **vote suppression would still be a bad thing**. You seem to be trying to imply something like “Hey, I’m not complaining about dirty voting tricks on the part of Democrats, so if you’re complaining about dirty voting tricks on the part of Republicans, it must just be pure partisan politics rather than a response to a genuine problem! So there!” Um, no. Like I said, even if the Democrats (or some Democrats, at least) are being one-sided and partisan in their concern about the integrity of the voting process, that doesn’t automatically invalidate their complaints. If you feel that the vote-fraud problem is just as bad on the other side of the aisle, then by all means go right ahead and produce some evidence of it to complain about, as other posters have produced evidence of various Republican dirty tricks. But stop pretending that it must not be a genuine problem just because not all the people complaining about it are being even-handed and bipartisan. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848/149 "2006-10-05T01:39:44Z")
[Article: The Diebold Bombshell | OpEd News](http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_di_060723_the_diebold_bombshel.htm) There are a bunch of stories and they have been running for years. This is not new and not going away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rfk-jr-files-whistleblower-suit-against-diebold/364848.md?page=7)