# Rhinoceroses, sad situation, but "Genocide?" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145 "2015-08-06T11:29:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/21 "2015-08-06T18:55:58Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Rape is pretty bad too, but it doesn’t apply if I fuck a pumpkin. That’s because pumpkins are not sentient. Which Rhinos ARE. So raping a rhino would be both morally evil and … extremely dangerous. So your analogy fails, on so many levels. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/22 "2015-08-06T19:18:45Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > That’s because pumpkins are not sentient. Which Rhinos ARE. So raping a rhino would be both morally evil and … extremely dangerous. So your analogy fails, on so many levels. If we artificially inseminate them (to help them increase in number or diversify genetically), is that not a form of rape? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/23 "2015-08-06T19:21:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If we artificially inseminate them (to help them increase in number or diversify genetically), is that not a form of rape? Maybe … I dunno … what’s your point? We’re getting far afield here … ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/24 "2015-08-06T19:29:24Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Maybe … I dunno … what’s your point? We’re getting far afield here … You said raping a rhino would be morally evil. Not so. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/25 "2015-08-06T19:35:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If we artificially inseminate them (to help them increase in number or diversify genetically), is that not a form of rape? GMO is RAPE!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/26 "2015-08-06T19:37:27Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > That’s because pumpkins are not sentient. Which Rhinos ARE. So raping a rhino would be both morally evil and … extremely dangerous. So your analogy fails, on so many levels. And very awkward when you have to ask to borrow a bit of horn. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/27 "2015-08-06T20:20:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You said raping a rhino would be morally evil. Not so. Artificial insemination isn’t rape. Yeah, yeah, you’ll pull out the definition from a dictionary, but usage is what matters, and people by and large don’t refer to artificial insemination as rape. The real definition is more complicated than “penetrate without consent.” You are inseminating a willing creature (as they are in estrus), and you aren’t doing it for your own sexual satisfaction, as a violent act, or to assert dominance. Most people thus don’t consider it rape. Only activists call it rape, and they do to stir up emotions and to try and make people stop. No one who is okay with it considers it rape. Hell, I can even find [activists](http://www.yourdailyvegan.com/2013/03/rape-culture-in-veganism/) who think it’s stupid to call it rape. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/28 "2015-08-06T20:25:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You said raping a rhino would be morally evil. Not so. Well if you want to stick your dick in a rhino, I’d say that’s rape and a bad thing, and if you get trampled in the process, I’ll probably just giggle. If you want to artificially inseminate a rhino to keep the species alive, whole different thing. Inconsistent, I suppose, but there it is. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/29 "2015-08-06T21:16:10Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > That’s because pumpkins are not sentient. You don’t know that. Maybe they’re just really shy. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/30 "2015-08-06T22:00:05Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Well if you want to stick your dick in a rhino, I’d say that’s rape and a bad thing, Rape applies to humans. You don’t rape a rhino anymore than you murder a cow. And regarding being morally wrong, is it better or worst than, say, riding a horse for fun? Better or worst than castrating it? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/31 "2015-08-06T22:15:52Z")
If you wanna stick your dick in a rhino make sure it is the LAST item on your bucket list. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/32 "2015-08-06T22:17:10Z")
> [@grude](#): > > If you wanna stick your dick in a rhino make sure it is the LAST item on your bucket list. Insert old bad joke about Eskimo woman and Polar bear here. :o ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/33 "2015-08-06T23:39:59Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Yes, “genocide” is stupid. “Holocaust” would be better, since in the general sense it just indicates mass killing, although using the word might be seen as trivializing the Holocaust of WWII. > > If you want to be colorful, you could use something like “Armageddon.” A holocaust was originally a burnt sacrifice, one where the sacrificed animal was completely burned to ashes. Yes, I understand that the word has been applied to a specific event, so that using it might be awkward even if it isn’t capitalized. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145/34 "2015-08-07T00:13:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > GMO is RAPE!! :eek: Believe it or not, there are people who say exactly that. I think there’s a quote by the ignoramus celebrity Vandana Shiva to that effect, although I’m not sure I want to spend the time perusing her works to locate it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rhinoceroses-sad-situation-but-genocide/727145.md?page=1)