# Rice blamed "extremists w/ heavy weapons" not protesters, crowds or movie. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 19, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717 "2013-05-19T02:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/41 "2013-05-20T22:08:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I don’t have any complaints except about your misrepresentation of the facts in your OP. Rice said the riots were caused by reaction to the video. That is a fact. > > If you want to argue that it was a reasonable assumption to make, that is one thing. But you’re pretending it never happened. I absolutely and without reservation agree totally that, Rice said the riots were caused by reaction to the video." Yes John Mace, that is a fact. I agree. I take no exception to that fact. Now try to find another attack on my facts, since this lame attempt is out of the duscussion. Now I am correcting your “Rice said the riots were caused by reaction to the video. That is a fact” because it was the CIA that told her to say it. So it is you that needs to tell the entire facts, Rice blamed the movie for the alleged crowd/protest preceding the attack because that was according to the CIA. But she tied no motives or assumption about the extremist that took over the attack. And that is because the CIA could not know the motives or the time spent planning the attack and if they did they did not want the attackers tipped off that they knew. Did you want Rice to go outside the talking points if she knew more than what the CIA knew? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/42 "2013-05-20T22:22:09Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > I absolutely and without reservation agree totally that, Rice said the riots were caused by reaction to the video." Yes John Mace, that is a fact. I agree. I take no exception to that fact. But that was the entire content of your OP. Are you now retracting that? > [@](#): > > Now try to find another attack on my facts, since this lame attempt is out of the duscussion. > > Now I am correcting your “Rice said the riots were caused by reaction to the video. That is a fact” because it was the CIA that told her to say it. So it is you that needs to tell the entire facts, > > Rice blamed the movie for the alleged crowd/protest preceding the attack because that was according to the CIA. But she tied no motives or assumption about the extremist that took over the attack. And that is because the CIA could not know the motives or the time spent planning the attack and if they did they did not want the attackers tipped off that they knew. > > Did you want Rice to go outside the talking points if she knew more than what the CIA knew? From your OP: > [@Rice](#): > > sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that – in that effort What does “join in that effort” mean? The “effort” was, allegedly, protesting the video. No video, no “spontaneous” protest, no “extremists” joining the “effort”, as there would have been no “effort” to join. Rice blamed the video for the protest and the attack. It’s there in black and white. Everyone seems to know that except you. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/43 "2013-05-20T22:36:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He didn’t say all Libyans were anti-American, but I think we can assume the ones who killed the 4 Americans were not our BFFs. I didn’t say he said ‘all’ Libyans… Where did you get that? I repeated his words. No ‘all’ Libyans. I wrote this: “does not indicate **general hatred** against Americans” You complaint is against something I did not write. Why does that happen so much. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/44 "2013-05-20T23:13:17Z")
“sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that – in that effort” -Susan Rice. John Mace does not cite the Rice quotes where she says what happens after the extremists 'joined the CIA suggested protest. They ‘hijacked it’ Susan Rice said. Nice try John. Susan Rice still blames the extremists for hijacking a protest and then- then attacking the Consulate with heavy weapons. The protesters did not attack the Consulate accirding to Rice and CIA talking points. The extremists did the attacking and that is what Rice said. She did not say what you have made up despite my providing transcripts of what she said, that if there was no video there would have been no extremists perpetuating an attack. She said enough that you don’t need to put words in her mouth. Why do you debate so much by putting words in people’s mouths? Show us where she said or the CIA said that they believed that if there was no video there would be no extremists attacking the Consulate? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/45 "2013-05-20T23:21:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That’s it? That’s all you got? In the midst of a buttload of Muslim people demonstrating all over the world about this video, they assumed that this might be the provocation? Seems to me a perfectly reasonable assumption until contradictory facts come in. Another “reasonable assumption” is that it was a planned attack by extremists on he anniversary of 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/46 "2013-05-20T23:47:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What does “join in that effort” mean? The “effort” was, allegedly, protesting the video. If my effort was to go outside the American Consulate and protest the video and bring only my voice and maybe a sign or American flag to burn, (no weapons) it does not make my effort the same motive and effort of a few who came at the same time and then hijack my effort by bringing rocket fired missiles and other heavy weapons and launch an attack that kills Americans. When I marched in protest prior to the pending invasion of the Iraq war, there were a few members of the Communist and Socialist Party there which had a right to be there but their effort and my effort do not become one effort and specifically if acts of violence or vandalism breakout from those what I consider to be extremists. They have joined my effort but they have ruined my effort by their joining. So tell me John Mace if you somehow believe that an unarmed protester and a heavily armed attacker are the same and should be treated as equals in the eyes of the law? If you don’t believe that go back and explain how your case this afternoon makes any sense at all, because it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/47 "2013-05-21T00:45:52Z")
Were there any demonstrations at the actual embassy? (Lot of times, want to know something, I’ll just pretend I do and wait for someone to correct me. Usually doesn’t take long. Hey, its a cheap trick, but I’m lazy and search terms are _hard_!) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/48 "2013-05-21T01:42:26Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > If my effort was to go outside the American Consulate and protest the video and bring only my voice and maybe a sign or American flag to burn, (no weapons) it does not make my effort the same motive and effort of a few who came at the same time and then hijack my effort by bringing rocket fired missiles and other heavy weapons and launch an attack that kills Americans. > > When I marched in protest prior to the pending invasion of the Iraq war, there were a few members of the Communist and Socialist Party there which had a right to be there but their effort and my effort do not become one effort and specifically if acts of violence or vandalism breakout from those what I consider to be extremists. > > They have joined my effort but they have ruined my effort by their joining. > > So tell me John Mace if you somehow believe that an unarmed protester and a heavily armed attacker are the same and should be treated as equals in the eyes of the law? > > If you don’t believe that go back and explain how your case this afternoon makes any sense at all, because it doesn’t. Hey, if you have issues what Rice said, take them up with her. I’m just quoting what she said. You’re the one trying to twist what she said into something she didn’t say. Your OP, btw, is what might be called the Mother of All False Dichotomies. The alleged “extremists” were motivated by the video, according to Rice. It’s not an either/or situation. But keep trying. You really are making the Republicans look good, if that is your goal. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/49 "2013-05-21T01:47:03Z")
To be clear: Republicans say that Rice claimed that the attackers were, themselves, motivated by the video. But what Rice actually said was that the attackers merely took advantage of a demonstration by others who were motivated by the video. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/50 "2013-05-21T02:12:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > To be clear: Republicans say that Rice claimed that the attackers were, themselves, motivated by the video. But what Rice actually said was that the attackers merely took advantage of a demonstration by others who were motivated by the video. No. She said they “joined in that effort”. If you “join in” an effort, you are making yourself part of it, not taking advantage of it. Once again: > [@Rice](#): > > sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that – in that effort I know it’s hard for many of you to disagree with someone who is trying to criticize Republicans, but this is just silly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/51 "2013-05-21T03:41:45Z")
To be clear, we have the OP: > [@](#): > > Amb Susan Rice as you can see did not ‘blame the movie’ or ‘blame a crowd’ or ‘blame a protest’ for the attacks on Benghazi. And we have [FactCheck.Org](http://FactCheck.Org): > [@](#): > > Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi “and others in the administration” including Rice. Not rocket science. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/52 "2013-05-21T04:16:49Z")
[quote=“John\_Mace, post:48, topic:658717”] The alleged “extremists” were motivated by the video, according to Rice. /QUOTE] IF it is according to Rice you could point to the transcript where she says something like that. You can’t - so it’s personal attack. As far as making Republicans look good, I have asked this question of Republicans on another forum. Jeanne is a Republican. She can’t answer the question of find where Rice ‘blamed the movie’. John Mace you sound just like her. Here is what I wrote about her. > [@](#): > > I think political scientists have to conduct some in depth research into the perils for the democratic process to work now that there is no turning back from the fact most people will only ‘watch or listen’ to acquire even a minimal level of information that could be called ‘keeping up with the news’ anymore. That is because few bother to read and we will never return to a society of ‘readers’. Many cannot be bothered to watch or listen anymore either. > > Jeanne is a perfect example of the problems we face. > > \*\*The first problem is not whether she watched Susan Rice on CNN or on Fox, the problem is that even if Jeanne watched independently of hearing what her favored punditry comes up with on the content; Jeanne by virtue of the limitations of ‘watching’ instead of reading will walk away from the whole segment remembering that the word ‘video’ was mentioned therefore the entire content of what Susan Rice said means absolutely nothing she is a witch because she said the ‘buzzword’. Take her to the river and dunk her. > > Republicans have become a group of people that think and act only by ‘buzzword’. \*\* > **In this case of Rice on Sunday Morning Talk shows, the buzz words ‘blame the movie’ were already out there but having nothing to do with Benghazi.** > > Romney started it at 10 PM on the night of the attack when he accused the President of sympathizing with the attackers because the crowd in Egypt erupted over anger at the video. > > So Romney lies that Obama or the Embassy in Cairo sympathized with the crowd and the violence because some bad evil Coptic Christian in California made this detestable movie. > > Buzzwords "blame the movie’ is locked in. > > Romney was a huge liar when he insinuated our President was committing what essentially could be called treason. But there is virtually nothing our side can do. > > But now, scientifically, Jeanne and others, just like her, have their brain stimulated to hear anything that resembles ‘blaming the movie’ as what to look for on the upcoming election and news coverage. > > It is lizard brain chemicals being released to excite the body to fight. > > And we see that the specimen on our forum has fully confirmed that that is what is going on. > The problem for Jeanne is that she also seeks to engage in this type of forum where reading and writing is much more sophisticated than ‘buzzword lizard brain engagement’ which thrives on seeing pictures, watching videos and listening to radio about the creatures that seek to devour you. > > She has to bring more than ‘buzzword ideology’ to this the forum and she can’t. > > When she runs as she is doing right now… it is further documentation that much research must be done so this problem for our democracy can be resolved in some civil and intelligent way. It is the other side of the lizard brain at work.. .. Fight or flight. > Left unchecked, who knows what is to become of us. > > That said, I am quite positive about all this since Obama’s approval rating is going up in the mist of the Republicans **“buzzword carnival of scandal”** because it is seen for what it truly is, even by those who don’t bother paying close attention to any of this. Just trying to make a living and raise a family… etc etc etc, -19 May 2013 09:54 AM 20130519a0954 Behaving like a Republican also apparently includes telling people who tell the truth and based that on actual transcripts and the words that were said, that they make “Republicans Look Good”. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/53 "2013-05-21T04:33:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > To be clear, we have the OP: > > And we have [FactCheck.Org](http://FactCheck.Org): > > “and others in the administration” including Rice. > > Not rocket science. What you do not have is a direct quote from Rice, Obama, Clinton or any top official that actually ‘blamed the movie’ for the attack at Benghazi. If you have it John Mace, you would copy it and paste it right here for all to see. So let’s see the quote: “Fact Check” must have a direct quote. What you cited is not a direct quote and in context. The **hijacking** of a protest by extremists with heavy weapons is not blaming the movie unless someone claimed that the "extremists showed up because they were pissed about the movie. No one said that and you have not produced it. Why did you persist upon following the Republican talking points John Mace. This is pure Republican ‘blame the movie’ Talking points which are part of Republican Slams against Obama as the “Apologizer in Chief” or “Muslim Sympathizer” or “America Hater”… I am now getting suspicious that you believe those talking points to. There is a reason you don’t provide a direct quote and others I see are beginning to see through to your sympathy for the Republican ''blame the movie" Obama Bashing Grave Dancing. This is all you got: > [@](#): > > And we have [FactCheck.Org](http://FactCheck.Org): > > Quote: > Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi I’ll ask again… Where did Rice or anybody ‘blame the movie’ for the attack? I have seen the movie being blamed for the protest that didn’t happen… but Fact Check Sucks because FACT CHECK does not acknowledge that the suspected protests at Benghazi were what the CIA said happened. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/54 "2013-05-21T04:37:51Z")
Quote: And we have [FactCheck.Org](http://FactCheck.Org): Quote: Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi Now since you can’t find Rice ‘blaming the movie’ for the attack… Now you are going to have to show us where Obama ‘blamed the movie’ for the attack. Others have tried… Can you do it? Where did Obama ‘blame the movie’ for the attack? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/55 "2013-05-21T04:55:29Z")
Look at your FACT CHECK… John Mace. It is incredible if you ever believe them again about anything. They cited Obama on the Late Show with David Letterman. Here is what he said… Tuesday, September 18, Letterman asked Obama specifically about the Benghazi attack, and the president responded by bringing up the video. Here’s the exchange: LETTERMAN: Now, I don’t understand, um, the ambassador to Libya killed in an attack on the consulate in Benghazi. Is this an act of war? Are we at war now? What happens here? OBAMA: Here’s what happened. … You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here, sort of a shadowy character who – who made an extremely offensive video directed at – at Mohammed and Islam – LETTERMAN: Making fun of the Prophet Mohammed. OBAMA: Making fun of the Prophet Mohammed. And so, this caused great offense in much of the Muslim world. But what also happened, extremists and terrorists used this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies, including the one, the consulate in Libya. > [@](#): > > **But** what also happened, extremists and terrorists used this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies, including the one, the consulate in Libya. BUT, … BUT… (do you know what BUT means? **But** what also happened, \*\*extremists and terrorists \*\*used this as an excuse to attack .. And I thought Obama being a Muslim Sympathizer never said the word “Terrorist”… ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/56 "2013-05-21T05:15:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Were there any demonstrations at the actual embassy? > > (Lot of times, want to know something, I’ll just pretend I do and wait for someone to correct me. Usually doesn’t take long. Hey, its a cheap trick, but I’m lazy and search terms are _hard_!) Not according to [this article](http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/world/meast/egpyt-us-embassy-protests). You would think if there were demonstrations at the US embassy in Tripoli, they would have mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/57 "2013-05-21T05:20:22Z")
I already quoted the relevant statements, that were actually in your OP. I’m not going to pay your denial game. If anyone else wants to champion your cause, I’ll continue the discussion with them. You have shown that you are impervious to facts. Let’s see if anyone else on this MB is willing to take up your banner and run with it. If not, you’re all alone in your beliefs, and you’re welcome to them. ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/58 "2013-05-21T05:22:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > And Bush never said Iraq was behind 9/11. > > This isn’t hard. Rice is referring to extremists who hijacked a demonstration, which was about a movie. The fact that she didn’t blame the demonstration, or the movie doesn’t change the message that was intentionally sent here. Especially since she referred to the “hateful video” which she never saw. What message was intentionally sent if she didn’t blame the movie or the demonstration? That has to leave her repeating CIA drafting points that have to be blaming extremists since the movie and protest are not to blame. Do you and Mace need to have a conference? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/59 "2013-05-21T05:27:47Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I already quoted the relevant statements, that were actually in your OP. I’m not going to pay your denial game. If anyone else wants to champion your cause, I’ll continue the discussion with them. You have shown that you are impervious to facts. Let’s see if anyone else on this MB is willing to take up your banner and run with it. If not, you’re all alone in your beliefs, and you’re welcome to them. You have quoted statements that do not in any way shape or form reflect where Susan Rice blamed the movie for the attacks. But cherishing a Republican talking point as you appear to want to do makes it quite appropriate when you walk away just like Republicans do when they could never find where Rice blamed the movie. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717/60 "2013-05-21T05:34:24Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > You have quoted statements that do not in any way shape or form reflect where Susan Rice blamed the movie for the attacks. Yes, I have. > [@](#): > > But cherishing a Republican talking point as you appear to want to do makes it quite appropriate when you walk away just like Republicans do when they could never find where Rice blamed the movie. It’s a [FactCheck.Org](http://FactCheck.Org) conclusion. Calling it a “Republican talking point” does’t it make it one. But keep trying. That’s what you’re good at! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rice-blamed-extremists-w-heavy-weapons-not-protesters-crowds-or-movie/658717.md?page=4)