Rich college student "liberal" dabblers must die.

The BBQ Pit
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Well, concerning your census taking abilities of the Latino community in Watsonville:
you know what they say when you assume…

(mock outrage)
What? YOU don’t know for yourself???
you mean YOU aren’t spending Thanksgiving at a brasero’s house?!! YOU are ‘talking to them at their level’!!!
:rolleyes:
I mean, why are you even spending time on the boards here? Why aren’t YOU using the time to promote Leftist ideas? Use the time to serve soup at kitchens, etc?

oh that’s right. Because YOU aren’t a hypocrite, are you?

as I mentioned before:

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Even Sven, I have to ask you, what are YOU doing for the cause? What specifically makes YOU a more worthy of the liberal moniker?

Shall we start going through your life choices, expenses, etc and put them on a chart to see where you fall? Hmmmm, those shoes you’re wearing. Why arent you wearing rope sandals? or better yet, barefoot?
Jesh, you could have donated the remainding money to a worthy cause, no?
Even Sven, sweetie, there’s something on your shoulder. It’s called a chip. You may want to do something about it.

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You know, the reason I am so offended at this thread is that there is an implication that a) rich is ALWAYS bad and b) once impoverished you will ALWAYS remain as such.

let me tell you, I wasn’t ‘rich’ growing up. Far from it. Nor were any of my classsmates. We all, for the most part STRUGGLED with day to day life, financially. It sucked, yes, but it wasn’t the end of the world. But you know what? we were happy just the same.
In fact, most of their parents looked at America as a land of opportunity. Yes, Picking fruit sucks etc, but they felt that if they worked hard then maybe, just maybe, their kids would get opportunities they never had. There was NEVER a sense of “woe is me, I am an brasero”.

Very VERY few of our parents could afford to send us to college. While I feel bad that your fellow classmates were impoverished to the point of not going to college, I find it hard to believe it was because of the "rich man putting the white man down’.

there’s a trick, you see. all of my friends employed it: its called getting off your ass and putting YOURSELF through life. We all worked. We all took out student loans. we all ate ramen, too.

AND not once did I ever hear anyone in my circle of pals begrudge others who ‘skated through so easily’ finacially, because, IT DIDN’T MATTER IN OUR LIVES.

and now, I can say I made it, financially. My siblings, cousins and I are among the first college grads on my mom’s side of the family. I have worked hard to make sure that when I have kids, that I can have them do the stuff in college I couldn’t afford.

I guess that makes me an evil person.

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I also agree with the issues being raised. The point I was trying to make earlier is students in any decent development program do too. My wife is a professor in International Development and in fact she has to tell students to stop always debating the moral implications of their work or you’ll never get anything accomplished. They also learn techniques like participant observation which is basically keeping your big yap shut. The first rule you should learn is that no matter where people are from or whatever their circustances, they are not idiots.

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Gah, I’ve got to learn to reference better. I mean issues raised by jayjay and gobear with respect to how to go about development work.

Now I’ve got to go to Wal-Mart to counteract all this liberalism.

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Better that rich kids be LIBERAL of any sort of leftist than conservative. No matter how minute or inane their actions may be, it’s a hell of a lot more than what most people do.

I agree that situations are often complex. I am also aware that there are some who are indeed condescending and pretentious. But, flawed they may be, better that they be a imperfect progressive than a perfect reactionary.

As for the poor, many of them already are self sufficent. What they don’t have is much of a voice or a stake in anything.

I have no problem whatsoever with those who manage to get out of poverty. My problem is with those who yammer about how they didn’t go on welfare(or have any sort of assistance or unions), therefore no one else should. You’d be amazed at how many people think that way.
“Or maybe they’ll just flake out and end up picking strawberries for a living because they wasted all their money on field trips to the local Vegan Foods Co-op and Revolutionary Training Center.”

Yea, because it’s SOOOOO horrible to spend money on anything but businesses! snort

Suuure, some will grow out of “progressiveness”, but many won’t. That’s something right wingers don’t seem to want to accept.

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Now this thread is making me laught. I take what is essentially a conservative positions (or at least they resemble the kinds of things I read on conservative web sites), as in:

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The liberals have taken over our schools and turned them from places of education to places of political indoctornation!

College liberals are self indulgent rich kids that don’t know anything about reality!

Liberals are self rightous, condenscending and annoying!

Liberals seek simple solutions to complex problems and often end up annoying the people they claim to be helping!
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And yet Gobear is still gonna fight me every step of the way! I wonder what would have happened if I had posed this thread as a conservative with the same complaints…

Oh well, there is only so much defending myself I can do. All I can say is if you had been in front of these people on the bus, they would have annoyed you, too.

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I totally believe you on this. I’ve met plenty of annoying rich-kid liberals – “trustafarians,” we called them at my school.

Q. How do you kill a trustafarian?
A. Hide their daddy’s gold card under the soap.

I just wanna make sure rich liberal college kids aren’t painted with too broad a brush. I knew plenty of good kids doing good work while I was in school, too.

Daniel

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Nope, not fighting you at all. Just pointing out some things. I pretty much agree with your assessment of the shallowness you observed.