# Rich People Behaving Badly

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 4, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776 "2015-02-04T00:12:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/1 "2015-02-04T00:12:52Z")

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I’ll start.

[Paris Hilton’s Brother Arrested for Going Berserk On Plane  
‘I Will F\*\*king Own You Peasants’](http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/03/paris-hiltons-brother-conrad-arrested-for-going-berserk-on-plane-i-will-f-king-own-you-peasants/)

The link says it all. Conrad Hilton… well, he went and did a silly thing. Of course he’ll not suffer any legal real consequences.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/2 "2015-02-04T00:18:15Z")

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I[guess where macademia nuts are served](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2936208/Nut-rage-exec-says-cabin-crew-erred-trial-nears-end.html) isn’t the only crucial issue challenging our species.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/3 "2015-02-04T20:29:15Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I’ll start.
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> [Paris Hilton’s Brother Arrested for Going Berserk On Plane  
> ‘I Will F\*\*king Own You Peasants’](http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/03/paris-hiltons-brother-conrad-arrested-for-going-berserk-on-plane-i-will-f-king-own-you-peasants/)
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> The link says it all. Conrad Hilton… well, he went and did a silly thing. Of course he’ll not suffer any legal real consequences.

Apparently, according to reports, he took a sleeping pill before the flight, which had a paradoxical reaction causing him to become agitated instead. Apparently a known reaction that happens to some people.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/4 "2015-02-04T20:35:30Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘I Will F\*\*king Own You Peasants’

Were they all playing Counterstrike or Halo or something? Cuz then yelling this would be ok.

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**Author:** ![KRC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@KRC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KRC)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/5 "2015-02-05T00:52:50Z")

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If he “owns” the peasants wouldn’t that mean they were serfs? I think serfdom is illegal in this country, although up until recently you could have sharecroppers or peons and I think underpaid farmworkers who work in hazardous conditions and are housed in a shed are still legal.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/6 "2015-02-05T01:37:02Z")

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_was just arrested in L.A. for allegedly going insane on an international flight back in July_

(from the linked article)

It takes 6 months to arrest a nutcase for behavior like this?

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/7 "2015-02-05T01:54:46Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Apparently a known reaction that happens to some people.

Yes–me, for one, with several opioids I’ve been exposed to. They can cause agitation and paranoia, coupled with a sense of extreme physical fragility. I’ve likened it to feeling like my bones were hollow, with a cold wind blowing through them, and my muscles made of piano wire.

I’ve never shouted at anyone, let alone called them “peasants”, while experiencing these effects, but I’ve never experienced them during an airplane flight, either. Given that flying already scares me, I can’t imagine that it would be a good combination, but they’d be more likely to find me trying to hide under something than shouting abuse.

This is anecdotal, but his behavior is not consistent with my experience of the effects.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/8 "2015-02-05T02:23:39Z")

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I wasn’t there & TMZ is a gossip site.

Bad reaction to medicine? A friend used to say that this sort of stuff did happen in his ER sometimes. Second hand stories are worthless though.  
Any of our medical people want to jump in? Can this happen? Does this happen?

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/9 "2015-02-05T02:31:22Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Apparently, according to reports, he took a sleeping pill before the flight, which had a paradoxical reaction causing him to become agitated instead. Apparently a known reaction that happens to some people.

more likely, he’s just an entitled asshole and is doing damage control. what possible reason would you have to defend a piece of shit like him?

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/10 "2015-02-05T13:56:10Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Apparently, according to reports, he took a sleeping pill before the flight, which had a paradoxical reaction causing him to become agitated instead. Apparently a known reaction that happens to some people.

> [@jz78817](#):
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> more likely, he’s just an entitled asshole and is doing damage control. what possible reason would you have to defend a piece of shit like him?

I certainly wouldn’t rule out affluenza based on the limited information we have, but Senegoid (and Conrad’s lawyer) are both correct that benzodiazepines and z-drugs (the two classes plausibly involved as the putative offender) can in fact trigger paradoxical reactions of extreme aggression, as [this reprint from an article in Australian Family Physician](http://www.racgp.org.au/download/documents/AFP/2011/November/201111jones.pdf) back in 2011 illustrates. Why they do this in some individuals, of course, is still being investigated.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/11 "2015-02-05T14:49:12Z")

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Which doesn’t excuse shit. He should still be thrown to the mob.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/12 "2015-02-05T15:58:03Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Which doesn’t excuse shit. He should still be thrown to the mob.

It is interesting where people go when they get drunk or angry or both. Community [poo-bahs like Judges caught when drunk](http://nypost.com/2014/12/26/judge-tries-to-flee-accident-and-get-out-of-dwi-using-his-position/)are some of the most amusing but celebrities have their moments also.

[Randy Travis](http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/08/randy-travis-naked-arrested-for-dui-allegedly-threatens-to-kill-cops-78605.html)

[Mel Gibson](http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/)

[Reese Witherspoon](http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/reese-witherspoon-arrested-dui-husband-jim-toth-atlanta-1200401299/)

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**Author:** ![tuesdayweld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@tuesdayweld](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tuesdayweld)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/13 "2015-02-05T23:31:01Z")

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Eh, from the fame and fortune crowd I’m never surprised by bad behavior. It’s the average joe (or jane) with wealth that never ceases to amaze me.

Transcript of an interesting interview on ‘the psychology of wealth’:

[http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business-jan-june13-makingsense\_06-21/](http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business-jan-june13-makingsense_06-21/)

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/14 "2015-02-06T00:18:34Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> I wasn’t there & TMZ is a gossip site.
> 
> Bad reaction to medicine? A friend used to say that this sort of stuff did happen in his ER sometimes. Second hand stories are worthless though.  
> Any of our medical people want to jump in? Can this happen? Does this happen?

Yes, they really should put a warning on the Jack Daniels label saying “Not to be used with crack cocaine” otherwise it’s just asking for trouble.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/15 "2015-02-06T00:55:14Z")

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> [@tuesdayweld](#):
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> Eh, from the fame and fortune crowd I’m never surprised by bad behavior. It’s the average joe (or jane) with wealth that never ceases to amaze me.
> 
> Transcript of an interesting interview on ‘the psychology of wealth’:
> 
> [http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business-jan-june13-makingsense\_06-21/](http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business-jan-june13-makingsense_06-21/)

Wait, the rich cheat more and have less compassion? Aww, say it ain’t so!

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/16 "2015-02-06T01:17:06Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> It is interesting where people go when they get drunk or angry or both. Community [poo-bahs like Judges caught when drunk](http://nypost.com/2014/12/26/judge-tries-to-flee-accident-and-get-out-of-dwi-using-his-position/)are some of the most amusing but celebrities have their moments also.
> 
> [Randy Travis](http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/08/randy-travis-naked-arrested-for-dui-allegedly-threatens-to-kill-cops-78605.html)
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> [Mel Gibson](http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibsons-anti-semitic-tirade-alleged-cover-up/)
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> [Reese Witherspoon](http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/reese-witherspoon-arrested-dui-husband-jim-toth-atlanta-1200401299/)

Count me as another one expressing a smidge of sympathy based on personal experience. If you have never experienced it, you know not - it really is close to “out of your mind”. Some combination of alcohol and/or medication and WHAT THE HELL WHY DID I GO OFF LIKE THAT AND USE EVERY BAD NAME IN THE BOOK GEEEZ!

The brain is an interesting device…

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/17 "2015-02-06T01:49:59Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> The brain is an interesting device…

Yes, and its too bad it is so much easier to fuck it up than to make it work well. Agitation due to biological causes is terrifying to the person having it, because you fear you will do something you will regret.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/18 "2015-02-06T10:45:55Z")

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[quote=“Count\_Blucher, post:8, topic:711776”]

I wasn’t there & TMZ is a gossip site.QUOTE]Well, if you don’t like TMZ, how about [WaPo](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/04/conrad-hilton-iiis-10-hour-in-flight-meltdown-as-told-by-the-fbi-and-conrad-hilton/)?

> [@](#):
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> He complained that the flight attendants were ignoring him or “taking the peasants’ side.” He whined about being upset because he broke up with his girlfriend, one flight attendant said. He bragged that his daddy would bail him out of this situation as he had in the past. After all, he’s already banned from several other airlines, he told the flight attendants.
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> “My father will pay this out, he has done it before. Dad paid $300,000 last time,” Hilton allegedly said.
> 
> Crew members and passengers were surprised that the flight wasn’t diverted or sent back to London given Hilton’s behavior.
> 
> (. . .)
> 
> Hours into the flight from hell, the co-pilot eventually presented Hilton with a “final written warning” document, urging him to behave. Hilton ripped up the document.

So, he gets air rage, daddy pays and he flies another airliner.

It does look like even if money doesn’t buy happiness, it can keep your flight from being diverted and the embarrassment of an immediate arrest.  
Regards,  
A peasant

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/19 "2015-02-06T14:31:56Z")

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I have to say, there is something oddly satisfying about bellowing out: “I will own all you fucking peasants”, even in an otherwise empty room.

Also, this is kinda like Eli Manning winning the Superbowl despite not even being the best QB in his immediate family - in that who knew that Paris was not the one most embarrassing to _her_\*\*\*\* family?

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rich-people-behaving-badly/711776/20 "2015-02-06T15:52:48Z")

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> [@KRC](#):
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> If he “owns” the peasants wouldn’t that mean they were serfs? I think serfdom is illegal in this country, although up until recently you could have sharecroppers or peons and I think underpaid farmworkers who work in hazardous conditions and are housed in a shed are still legal.

He’s using the term “own” with the modern, hep cat definition:

[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=own](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=own)  
It’s an aggressive posturing type thing, akin to saying “step up, and I will kick your broke ass.”

“Own” means to win or dominate something, not to purchase in a transaction, in this context.

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