# Richard Dawkins says American religion holds back science **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2015, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-dawkins-says-american-religion-holds-back-science/733595 "2015-10-05T10:03:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 208
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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#): > > You’re repeating yourself, as I stated he clearly didn’t disagree. From the paper I quoted what he describes as double solution theory, is broadly speaking what is more commonly called de Broglie-Bohm theory and he even references Bohm as the originator of the “subquantum medium”. Yes, de Broglie agreed with Bohm in terms of the “subquantic medium”. However, Bohm considered the wave-function wave to be the pilot-wave. This is what de Broglie disagreed with when he said, _“to render impossible the adoption of the pilot-wave theory.”_ NON-LINEAR WAVE MECHANICS A CAUSAL INTERPRETATION by LOUIS DE BROGLIE _"During the summer of 1951, there came to my attention, much to my surprise, a paper by David Bohm which appeared subsequently in The Physical Review [3]. In this paper Bohm went back to my theory of the pilot-wave, considering the W wave as a physical reality_ He made a certain number of interesting remarks on the subject, and in particular, he indicated the broad outline of a theory of measurement that seemed to answer the objections Pauli had made to my approach in 1927.3 My first reaction on reading Bohm’s work was to reiterate, in a communication to the Comptes rendus de VAcademic des Sciences [4], the objections, insurmountable in my opinion, that seemed to render impossible any attribution of physical reality to the W wave, and consequently, to render impossible the adoption of the pilot-wave theory."\* de Broglie says it is impossible to attribute physical reality to the wave-function wave. There are two waves in de Broglie’s double solution theory. There is the wave-function wave which is statistical, non-physical and is used to determine the probabilistic results of experiments. There is also a physical wave in the hidden subquantic medium which guides the particle. Bohmian mechanics: one wave. de Broglie’s double solution theory : two waves. One mathematical. One physial. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-dawkins-says-american-religion-holds-back-science/733595)._