# Richard Glover: 'Tattoo climate change deniers'

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 8, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762 "2011-06-08T18:01:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/1 "2011-06-08T18:01:30Z")

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Article [here](http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-dangers-of-boneheaded-beliefs-20110602-1fijg.html#ixzz1OW4mh3uj).

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> Surely it’s time for climate-change deniers to have their opinions forcibly tattooed on their bodies.

Let’s just think about that for a moment.

I think I’ll just link to [this response](http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2011/06/post_62.html):

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> I once lived next door to a lady who was tattooed at Auschwitz…

I think little more needs to be said.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/2 "2011-06-08T18:08:44Z")

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Two paragraphs down:

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> On second thoughts, maybe the tattooing along the arm is a bit Nazi-creepy.

It’s just a rant. Chill out.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/3 "2011-06-08T18:08:56Z")

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- shrug \*

I dunno. Just because the Nazis tattooed their prisoners doesn’t mean I wouldn’t mind some people going around with “I’m an idiot” tattooed onto their foreheads. You know, as fair warning. 🙂

Hell, domesticated ferrets are tattooed (one dot for being neutered, one dot for being de-scented) on their ears for ID purposes. No one makes that out to be a Nazi thing, do they?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/4 "2011-06-08T18:16:54Z")

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OP=humor processing failure

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/5 "2011-06-08T18:18:17Z")

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Stop Godwinizing things, please!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/6 "2011-06-08T18:20:14Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Stop Godwinizing things, please!

You know who liked to Godwinize things, don’t you?

(I’ll show myself out.)

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/7 "2011-06-08T18:21:50Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Hell, domesticated ferrets are tattooed (one dot for being neutered, one dot for being de-scented) on their ears for ID purposes. No one makes that out to be a Nazi thing, do they?

First they came for the ferrets, and I didn’t speak out…

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/8 "2011-06-08T18:30:34Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> You know who liked to Godwinize things, don’t you?
> 
> (I’ll show myself out.)

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass while you’re leaving.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/9 "2011-06-08T18:57:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Looked at through this lens, our generation has it easy. Already wealthy and armed with new technology, we need to front up to the challenge of building a low-carbon economy.

What the fuck? What lens?

> [@](#):
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> Each generation of people has a job to do; a burden that falls to their time. Sometimes, it’s a war or depression. Sometimes, it’s the work of building the first railways and roads. Sometimes, it’s a plague that wipes out half the population or a fire that destroys a whole city.

Look you simplistic dickbag, let’s just cut to the chase. You are trying to write some sort of great screed to motivate and inspire, or maybe just to get a paycheck, I don’t even know. In any case, you suck at it.

Because this generation has wars, depression, is building new rail systems, bridges and roads, has a worldwide plague (HIV), and disasters that destroyed thousands of entire cities, as well as an ongoing nuclear disaster at the moment. Billions of people don’t have clean water, safety or even a chance at any of the luxuries you consume each day like a King.

But you write like you speak for an entire planet.

> [@](#):
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> The tool we’ll use is a carbon tax that seeks to subtly redirect some of our choices. Cut your power bill by more than the compensation offered and you get to keep the change.
> 
> ```
> Is that really so onerous compared with a depression or war?
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> ```

[http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-dangers-of-boneheaded-beliefs-20110602-1fijg.html#ixzz1OW4mh3uj](http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-dangers-of-boneheaded-beliefs-20110602-1fijg.html#ixzz1OW4mh3uj)

I usually ignore idiots like you, because not only are you completely clueless, you are also feeling a bit smug because you BELIEVE in something, in this case some idealistic movement that you are saving the world or something. When you don’t know jack shit about the world at all.

If you are like the other smug self serving fuckheads that preach global warming and “we are killing the planet”, you probably haven’t done one fucking thing to actually reduce your own personal shit pile of what you consider pollution, carbon dioxide.

In fact the fastest way to save the world, from your insane dogmatic point of view, would be to stop breathing. That also means you stop using an fossil fuels. You just did your part to save the world.

And as an added bonus nobody has to listen to your moronic drivel for anther second. Have your dead ass buried and plant a tree on it.

Then it’s all good. You also did some carbon burial.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/10 "2011-06-08T18:59:40Z")

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If I offended any true believers with the above, I am sorry. In no way was I talking about you.

Not sorry I offended you, sorry you are such a thin skinned believer you can’t take the heat.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/11 "2011-06-08T19:05:16Z")

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I thought this was going to be about tattoos becoming more acceptable in the work climate.

Never mind.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/12 "2011-06-08T19:09:00Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Because this generation has wars, depression, is building new rail systems, bridges and roads, has a worldwide plague (HIV), and disasters that destroyed thousands of entire cities, as well as an ongoing nuclear disaster at the moment. Billions of people don’t have clean water, safety or even a chance at any of the luxuries you consume each day like a King.
> 
> But you write like you speak for an entire planet.

Global warming is a global issue, bad as they are, your points are more localized.

> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> I usually ignore idiots like you, because not only are you completely clueless, you are also feeling a bit smug because you BELIEVE in something, in this case some idealistic movement that you are saving the world or something. When you don’t know jack shit about the world at all.
> 
> If you are like the other smug self serving fuckheads that preach global warming and “we are killing the planet”, you probably haven’t done one fucking thing to actually reduce your own personal shit pile of what you consider pollution, carbon dioxide.
> 
> In fact the fastest way to save the world, from your insane dogmatic point of view, would be to stop breathing. That also means you stop using an fossil fuels. You just did your part to save the world.
> 
> And as an added bonus nobody has to listen to your moronic drivel for anther second. Have your dead ass buried and plant a tree on it.
> 
> Then it’s all good. You also did some carbon burial.

No, that is what one would call to be carbon neutral. 🙂

Of course one can notice that in your reply you really have not shown any good reason why your position on this has any validity.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/13 "2011-06-08T19:09:04Z")

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How stupid do you have to be to write something about the Government forcibly tattooing people? Seriously?

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**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/14 "2011-06-08T19:16:23Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> What the fuck? What lens?
> 
> Look you simplistic dickbag, let’s just cut to the chase. You are trying to write some sort of great screed to motivate and inspire, or maybe just to get a paycheck, I don’t even know. In any case, you suck at it.
> 
> Because this generation has wars, depression, is building new rail systems, bridges and roads, has a worldwide plague (HIV), and disasters that destroyed thousands of entire cities, as well as an ongoing nuclear disaster at the moment. Billions of people don’t have clean water, safety or even a chance at any of the luxuries you consume each day like a King.
> 
> But you write like you speak for an entire planet.
> 
> [http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-dangers-of-boneheaded-beliefs-20110602-1fijg.html#ixzz1OW4mh3uj](http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-dangers-of-boneheaded-beliefs-20110602-1fijg.html#ixzz1OW4mh3uj)
> 
> I usually ignore idiots like you, because not only are you completely clueless, you are also feeling a bit smug because you BELIEVE in something, in this case some idealistic movement that you are saving the world or something. When you don’t know jack shit about the world at all.
> 
> If you are like the other smug self serving fuckheads that preach global warming and “we are killing the planet”, you probably haven’t done one fucking thing to actually reduce your own personal shit pile of what you consider pollution, carbon dioxide.
> 
> In fact the fastest way to save the world, from your insane dogmatic point of view, would be to stop breathing. That also means you stop using an fossil fuels. You just did your part to save the world.
> 
> And as an added bonus nobody has to listen to your moronic drivel for anther second. Have your dead ass buried and plant a tree on it.
> 
> Then it’s all good. You also did some carbon burial.

Really dumb and really angry: thanks for helping to make the internets amusing.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/15 "2011-06-08T19:17:26Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> If I offended any true believers with the above, I am sorry. In no way was I talking about you.
> 
> Not sorry I offended you, sorry you are such a thin skinned believer you can’t take the heat.

Piffle, you are really a certifiable idiot (already found as you swallowed hook line and sinker the blogessor that reported on the radiation falling in Berkeley from Japan.)

So getting even more confirmation of that fact (that you are a certifiable idiot) is welcomed.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/16 "2011-06-08T19:19:19Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> How stupid do you have to be to write something about the Government forcibly tattooing people? Seriously?

Getting whooshed is not something to be proud, specially when others noticed already that whoosh.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/17 "2011-06-08T19:44:00Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> If I offended any true believers with the above, I am sorry. In no way was I talking about you.
> 
> Not sorry I offended you, sorry you are such a thin skinned believer you can’t take the heat.

Line up for your tattoo on the right.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/18 "2011-06-08T19:45:05Z")

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Fuck, does Richard Glover _still_ have a column in the _Sydney Morning Herald_?

This painfully trite and boring opinionator was trotting out lame stories of domestic trivia when i lived in Sydney more than ten years ago. He used to take some stupid thing his kids did, or some bullshit observation made by his no-doubt-equally-smug partner, and use it as a launching pad for a pseudo-intellectual meditation.

I happen to agree that climate-change deniers are generally a few sandwiches short of a picnic, but Glover’s not the person i look to for advice when thinking about these issues.

And **FXMastermind** , why don’t you stick to blogging in the “Stupid nuclear reporting” thread? This board would benefit from confining your idiotic dribbling to a single location, where people can go to point and laugh when the need arises.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/19 "2011-06-08T19:59:42Z")

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Maybe it would be best to start with making anyone who doesn’t believe the right way to have to wear a special badge to identify them.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-glover-tattoo-climate-change-deniers/584762/20 "2011-06-08T20:03:35Z")

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Don’t really need not stinkin’ badges, FXM. It’s not exactly going to be tough to figure out that you don’t know what you are talking about, after all. 😛

-XT

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