# Richard III is being reburied today
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [March 22, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680 "2015-03-22T13:24:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@scoots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scoots)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/1 "2015-03-22T13:24:04Z")
[http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-31990721](http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-31990721)
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### Author:  [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/2 "2015-03-22T13:28:25Z")
I hope they put him under a nicer parking lot this time.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/3 "2015-03-22T13:40:56Z")
If you’re going to Windsor Castle after the service, you should drop off a casserole.
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### Author:  [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/4 "2015-03-22T16:59:46Z")
I wanted him to have a nice Catholic funeral in York, but no one asked me.
Was the Duke of Gloucester there? I hope so.
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### Author:  [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/5 "2015-03-22T18:02:03Z")
> [@Pai325](#):
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> I wanted him to have a nice Catholic funeral in York, but no one asked me.
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> Was the Duke of Gloucester there? I hope so.
I just checked the Daily Mail. And they had a picture of Prince Richard, so he was there. Good.
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/6 "2015-03-22T18:09:39Z")
Are they finally giving him a horse?
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/7 "2015-03-22T18:28:57Z")
If I was reburied I think it would make me turn over in my grave.
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/8 "2015-03-22T18:59:24Z")
Uh, I thought he deserved a better funeral than what took place originally, but IMHO he did not deserve the kind of funeral shown there.
There are always doubts about what Richard did with the princes in the Tower of London, but then I found out that Richard kidnapped the son of Lord Stanley to guarantee that the lord would support him in the final battle; so I think Richard is not blameless for the death of the princes. Richard also ordered the execution of the son of Lord Stanley while the battle was going on because he noticed the unwillingness of the Stanley’s to help when the time came. \*
Yeah, I know that underhanded things like that were common in those days, but I think that what took place should not be ignored and act like if Richard deserved respect like that in his new funeral.
- The order was not carried out due to confusion or Richard’s men looking to the future and taking sides then.
War Walks - Bosworth
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/9 "2015-03-22T23:03:40Z")
Check out this chausible they’re bringing out for the service. It belongs to Ushaw college atm but it dates from Richard’s era and is described on inventories of his belongings:
[http://www.durhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/11871059.Priceless\_vestment\_from\_Ushaw\_College\_to\_be\_worn\_by\_Cardinal\_at\_Requiem\_Mass\_of\_King\_Richard\_III/?ref=fbshr](http://www.durhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/11871059.Priceless_vestment_from_Ushaw_College_to_be_worn_by_Cardinal_at_Requiem_Mass_of_King_Richard_III/?ref=fbshr)
Snazzy!
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/10 "2015-03-23T04:55:09Z")
> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I hope they put him under a nicer parking lot this time.
I would think that under Windsor castle’s garage would be a suitable place. That is, if someone’s added a garage in the last century. Otherwise, under the stables would be good.
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### Author:  [@Lucretia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucretia)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/11 "2015-03-23T07:57:57Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> Check out this chausible they’re bringing out for the service. It belongs to Ushaw college atm but it dates from Richard’s era and is described on inventories of his belongings:
> [http://www.durhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/11871059.Priceless\_vestment\_from\_Ushaw\_College\_to\_be\_worn\_by\_Cardinal\_at\_Requiem\_Mass\_of\_King\_Richard\_III/?ref=fbshr](http://www.durhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/11871059.Priceless_vestment_from_Ushaw_College_to_be_worn_by_Cardinal_at_Requiem_Mass_of_King_Richard_III/?ref=fbshr)
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> Snazzy!
During a Mass, there’s a point where the priest lifts the chalice of wine, then takes a sip. All I can imagine the Cardinal thinking during that time is “Jesus don’t let me spill”.
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### Author:  [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/12 "2015-03-23T10:05:54Z")
“Bloody thou art, bloody will be thy end;
Shame serves thy life and doth thy death attend.”
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/13 "2015-03-23T15:08:11Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Yeah, I know that underhanded things like that were common in those days, but I think that what took place should not be ignored and act like if Richard deserved respect like that in his new funeral.
Eh, I’m one who both thinks he almost certainly did murder the princes AND that sumptuous funerals are a waste of money. But let’s not single him out as a uniquely nasty villain - most kings were assholes. I’m pretty sure Henry VII would have murdered the princes as well, I just happen to think Richard got there first ;). Richard III, like John, went down in history as great villains substantially because they _lost_. But otherwise both were quite competent and only a little above average in the mendacious monarchs category.
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### Author:  [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/14 "2015-03-23T15:18:07Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Eh, I’m one who both thinks he almost certainly did murder the princes AND that sumptuous funerals are a waste of money. But let’s not single him out as a uniquely nasty villain - most kings were assholes. I’m pretty sure Henry VII would have murdered the princes as well, I just happen to think Richard got there first ;). Richard III, like John, went down in history as great villains substantially because they _lost_. But otherwise both were quite competent and only a little above average in the mendacious monarchs category.
Indeed: I never really understood the Richardian ‘controversy’. Murdering inconvenient rivals for the throne was completely common behaviour for monarchs at the time; certainly the Tudors did it, often. 😃
I do think John has a good claim to be a villain though - not so much because he did bad stuff, but because of his bad 'tude. Other monarchs killed when they must, but John really seemed to take pleasure in doing it. 😉 Starving to death in a dungeon da Braose’s wife and kid - very nasty.
> **[William de Braose, 4th Lord of Bramber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Braose,_4th_Lord_of_Bramber#Royal_persecution_and_death_in_exile)**
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> William de Braose, (or William de Briouze), 4th Lord of Bramber (1144/1153 – 9 August 1211), court favourite of King John of England, at the peak of his power, was also Lord of Gower, Abergavenny, Brecknock, Builth, Radnor, Kington, Limerick, Glamorgan, Skenfrith, Briouze in Normandy, Grosmont and White Castle.
> William was the most notable member of the de Braose dynasty. His steady rise and sudden fall at the hands of King John is often taken as an example of that king's arbitrary and caprici...
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/15 "2015-03-23T15:39:49Z")
> [@Malthus](#):
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> Starving to death in a dungeon da Braose’s wife and kid - very nasty.
Hey, if de Braose didn’t want his wife and children to starve to death he should have paid his extortionate fees and not ( probably ) murdered young Arthur on John’s orders. Err…that is…well, okay, John was perhaps very slightly bearish ;).
But hey, Richard III’s lionized brother Edward IV may have had their other ( okay, very, very slightly treasonous with his constant rebellions ) brother George drowned in a big ole vat of wine. Fun guys, those monarchs.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/16 "2015-03-23T20:57:01Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Uh, I thought he deserved a better funeral than what took place originally, but IMHO he did not deserve the kind of funeral shown there.
Lancastrian swine! 😛
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### Author:  [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/17 "2015-03-23T21:03:02Z")
> [@dropzone](#):
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> Lancastrian swine! 😛
In Toronto, I often drive by a ‘Gentleman’s Club’ called _House of Lancaster_. Complete with a coat-of-arms featuring the Red Rose!
> **[Strip club shooting renews Queensway land use debate | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/house-of-lancaster-shooting-residents-want-strip-club-to-move-1.2887411)**
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> A shooting outside the House of Lancaster strip club early Tuesday has renewed the debate about land use on the Queensway.
I always wondered if they had a rival strip club somewhere, the House of York. 😃
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/18 "2015-03-23T21:03:25Z")
He should have been buried when they recovered the SDMB server, and ended the Winter of our Missed Content.
Regards,
Shodan
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### Author:  [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/19 "2015-03-24T18:09:05Z")
Everytime I see this thread title, I hear it being sung to EASTER HYMN. Must be the time of the year.
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-iii-is-being-reburied-today/715680/20 "2015-03-26T00:40:28Z")
You know, if they hadn’t dug him up in the first place, they wouldn’t have had to bury him again. Just saying, it seems like a lot of running around in circles.
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