# Richard Marx and wife Daisy Fuentes help air crew with crazed passenger. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 20, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265 "2016-12-20T22:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/1 "2016-12-20T22:30:45Z")
Richard Marx 80’s and 90’s music star had a wild airplane ride. The pictures looks like a Keystone Cops film. Stewardess has a Taser she doesn’t know how to use. They tie the guy up three times and he gets free. 4 hours of craziness. Btw, why is that other Stewardess holding a credit card (or some small object) in that Taser photo? It’s too small to be a smart phone. Glad Richard and Daisy are OK. TMZ has a report and photos that Richard posted. Richard’s video hasn’t been released yet. > **[Celebrity News | Entertainment News | TMZ.com](https://www.tmz.com/)** > > Breaking the biggest stories in celebrity and entertainment news. Get exclusive access to the latest stories, photos, and video as only TMZ can. > > > [@](#): > > You will be hearing about our flight#480 on @KoreanAir\_KE . Passenger next to us attacked passengers and crew. Crew completely ill trained. > [@](#): > > We have video of entire chaotic and dangerous event on @KoreanAir\_KE 480. Lasted 4 hours. Crew completely ill-equipped to handle situation. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/2 "2016-12-20T22:37:43Z")
Don’t mean nothin. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/3 "2016-12-20T22:40:51Z")
Richard gives a more complete account on Facebook. > **[Log into Facebook](https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154928123095555&id=170148395554& __tn__ =%2As)** > > Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/4 "2016-12-20T22:46:09Z")
Here’s a better photo of the Taser. I’d swear that’s a credit card that other lady is holding. You can make out the embossed letters. [https://www.instagram.com/p/BOPJdvCD4qh/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BOPJdvCD4qh/) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/5 "2016-12-20T23:01:29Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Here’s a better photo of the Taser. I’d swear that’s a credit card that other lady is holding. You can make out the embossed letters. > [https://www.instagram.com/p/BOPJdvCD4qh/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BOPJdvCD4qh/) That’s pretty obviously a cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/6 "2016-12-20T23:13:23Z")
The bottom right photo is obviously a cell phone. I don’t know what that lady is holding in the bottom left photo. Maybe the cell phone cover? It’s flat and facing the camera. You don’t hold a phone sideways like that. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/7 "2016-12-20T23:14:31Z")
So Korean Air’s idea of restraints is to leave some rope for the air crew? Why wouldn’t they just have given them handcuffs or those wire tie restraints? Why depend on someone on board having been a boy scout or a sailor? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/8 "2016-12-20T23:57:08Z")
[There’s also a thread about this in General Questions.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=814317) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/9 "2016-12-20T23:58:09Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So Korean Air’s idea of restraints is to leave some rope for the air crew? Why wouldn’t they just have given them handcuffs or those wire tie restraints? Why depend on someone on board having been a boy scout or a sailor? Yeah, they should have known better, right? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/10 "2016-12-21T00:00:56Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The bottom right photo is obviously a cell phone. > > I don’t know what that lady is holding in the bottom left photo. Maybe the cell phone cover? It’s flat and facing the camera. You don’t hold a phone sideways like that. Somebody using the camera function in landscape rather than portrait orientation would. Or maybe she lost her glasses in the excitement and is reading off the instructions for the taser. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/11 "2016-12-21T00:03:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The bottom right photo is obviously a cell phone. > > I don’t know what that lady is holding in the bottom left photo. Maybe the cell phone cover? It’s flat and facing the camera. You don’t hold a phone sideways like that. Unless you’re using the camera. That also explains the presence of a cell phone in these circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/12 "2016-12-21T00:03:39Z")
What I took away from this news story when it showed up on my feed: Daisy Fuentes and Richard Marx are married!!! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/13 "2016-12-21T00:18:44Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > So Korean Air’s idea of restraints is to leave some rope for the air crew? Why wouldn’t they just have given them handcuffs or those wire tie restraints? Why depend on someone on board having been a boy scout or a sailor? > > Yeah, they should have known better, right? I’m not sure what you mean. Restraints for unruly passengers are standard equipment on all flights, as far as I know. My point was merely that a length of rope isn’t a good solution for this. Hospitals have restraints that use buckles and could perhaps be secured to the passenger seat. There are also handcuffs or those wire tie restraints some police officers carry. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/14 "2016-12-21T00:40:41Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yeah, they should have known better, right? You should know better than to rely on gear your crew is not trained to use, regardless of why the gear is there. If your crew can’t use it, it’s dead weight or, worse, an outright liability. If the airline trains its crew to subdue and restrain people by lassoing and hog-tying, fine. That’s deeply unusual and probably a [del]case of deep-seated fetishism[/del] really bad idea, but if the crew’s trained to use rope, rope is what you store. If the crew doesn’t know how to use rope, which seems more likely, why the Hell would you have rope for them to use? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/15 "2016-12-21T00:44:45Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > What I took away from this news story when it showed up on my feed: Daisy Fuentes and Richard Marx are married!!! I’ve never heard of either of them. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/16 "2016-12-21T00:46:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’ve never heard of either of them. OMG! You are soooo cool! ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/17 "2016-12-21T00:47:37Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > Don’t mean nothin. Richard will be right here waiting if you encounter any more crazy people on planes. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/18 "2016-12-21T00:51:05Z")
> [@SaharaTea](#): > > Richard will be right here waiting if you encounter any more crazy people on planes. Not only that, the OP’s links don’t work for me because I am not a member of twitter or TMZ. So I’d have to google these guys to figure it out ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/19 "2016-12-21T01:23:10Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > You should know better than to rely on gear your crew is not trained to use, regardless of why the gear is there. If your crew can’t use it, it’s dead weight or, worse, an outright liability. > > If the airline trains its crew to subdue and restrain people by lassoing and hog-tying, fine. That’s deeply unusual and probably a [del]case of deep-seated fetishism[/del] really bad idea, but if the crew’s trained to use rope, rope is what you store. If the crew doesn’t know how to use rope, which seems more likely, why the Hell would you have rope for them to use? Whoosh. “Should Have Known Better” was one of Marx’s hits in the 80s. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265/20 "2016-12-21T03:13:03Z")
Can’t help but wonder if the passenger was a repeat offender. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-marx-and-wife-daisy-fuentes-help-air-crew-with-crazed-passenger/775265.md?page=2)