# Richard ramirez the night stalker **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 15, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625 "2020-09-15T00:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![breakneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@breakneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breakneck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/1 "2020-09-15T00:50:55Z")
Is it true serial killer Richard Ramirez got married while in prison was allowed to have sex with his new wife and had a child with her ? how can this be true and happen is this punishment for taking multiple lives ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/2 "2020-09-15T01:33:16Z")
I can find no evidence that they ever had a child, or even that they had sex while he was in prison. ---
**Author:** ![breakneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@breakneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breakneck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/3 "2020-09-15T01:54:47Z")
I dont remeber where i read this I thought it had to not be true . But how are you to be certain to know what is the best method of confirming . and the tax question just talk amognst friends telling me its voluntary to pay taxes and I was i dont think so ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/4 "2020-09-15T02:13:24Z")
Married, yes. Child, unknown. Doubtful. > **[Where Is Richard Ramirez's Wife Today? Doreen Lioy Is Mysterious](https://www.bustle.com/articles/166062-where-is-richard-ramirezs-wife-today-doreen-lioy-is-mysterious)** > > In 2013, CNN reported that serial killer Richard Ramirez, also known as "the Night Stalker," had died of natural causes while on death row in California. In the spring and summer of 1985, Ramirez had terrorized residents of Southern California and… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/5 "2020-09-15T02:17:14Z")
> [@breakneck](#): > > But how are you to be certain to know what is the best method of confirming . I looked up several sites on the subject, including Wiki, and can find no mention of a child by Ramirez and his then wife, or even that she ever had a child at all. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/6 "2020-09-15T05:41:22Z")
> [@breakneck](#): > > and the tax question just talk amognst friends telling me its voluntary to pay taxes and I was i dont think so **Moderating** Do not bring up topics from closed threads in new threads. If you continue to do this, you may receive a warning. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![breakneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@breakneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breakneck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/7 "2020-09-15T09:24:59Z")
I am sorry I was just try to hit 2 birds with one stone replying back to him ---
**Author:** ![breakneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@breakneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breakneck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/8 "2020-09-15T09:26:25Z")
Wiki is good but a little hard to verify I know people that have wiki pages on them and they have verified to me the information not all if it but there were mistakes about their information ---
**Author:** ![breakneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@breakneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breakneck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/9 "2020-09-15T09:43:56Z")
Well if that is indeed true, why are death row inmates granted the right to get married when they are convicted of commiting 13 murders . I thought prison was a person loosing their rights because of their actions.Loosing the right to be free , work ,play do what he or she might want to do. I wonder how those 13 families feel knowing that he enjoyed the joy of have been married and having a new wife. Why are the prison systems even allowing any of this than the piece of s\*\*\* was an animal not even that less than that . ANd he has rights? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/10 "2020-09-15T15:06:20Z")
**Moderator Warning** **breakneck** , political commentary of this kind is not permitted in General Questions. Since this is the second time in two days you have derailed your own thread by going off on a tangent, I am making this an official warning. If you want to debate something, take it to Great Debates. If you want to rant, take it to the Pit. If you do anything like this again in GQ, you will find your posting privileges under discussion. This is closed. Colibri General Questions Moderator. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/richard-ramirez-the-night-stalker/920625/11 "2020-09-15T15:06:32Z")