# Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\
**Created:** [January 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380 "2014-01-21T17:43:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/381 "2017-08-30T02:15:50Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Well, healthy-Rick says it about himself – _“when I say ‘honestly’, you can believe it, because we both know I’m too healthy to lie”_ – and that’s when toxic-Rick gives up, which only really makes sense if that’s true; and then we get to see healthy-Morty’s sales pitch: _“Have I ever lied to you? That’s right; and ask around, I never do”_.
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> (I mean, granted, a liar could say that; but, in the context of the Ricks? And what with Jacqueline stressing that healthy-Morty was up-front about everything?)
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> I was thinking more of what he said before that.

Morty and Ricks’ version of “healthy” are very different. We at least agree on that, right? Do you think Morty was meant to be portrayed as an HONEST stockbroker in a penny-stock boiler room when they were parodying, “[The Wolf of Wall Street](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXLV_DMKa0)”? Yup, liars can lie about their lying. “Ask around, I never do.” is complete bullshit.

Hell, his hot girlfriend Jacqueline even said that he. . . (going back to the video) “You weren’t a 14-year old boy from the Midwest who ran away from his family who capitalized on his lack of conscience by becoming a stockbroker?” How does one capitalize on a lack of conscience when using high-pressure sales techniques to sell stock by phone? By lying about it, of course.

He did what he wanted shamelessly. Not everything he did was a lie - he told to truth to Jacqueline, for example - but there were no restraints on him preventing him from doing so should he choose.

Kinda feel like we’re getting far afield from the original point, which was that I thought Morty knew what he was doing when he didn’t hang up on Rick - an act that didn’t even require him to lie at any point in the episode, so now I’m not quite sure why I made an argument that he could lie. 😃

Anyway, yeah, there’s ambiguity. Morty never admitted that he left the line open on purpose. I’ll never be able to prove that he did. You’ll never be able to prove he didn’t. We just watch, and enjoy own interpretations.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/382 "2017-08-30T14:55:02Z")

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Happy Ricksgiving, beyotches!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/383 "2017-08-30T23:56:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Happy Ricksgiving, beyotches!

Wubba-lubba-dub-duuuuuuuuuuuuuub!

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/384 "2017-08-31T00:10:49Z")

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AIDS!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/385 "2017-08-31T00:25:20Z")

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Lick-lick-lick my balls!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/386 "2017-08-31T15:07:08Z")

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Graaaaaaaass… tastes bad.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/387 "2017-08-31T15:16:41Z")

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“WE’RE WHAT GOD REMOVED!” _Morty screams horrifically_

I kinda dug this episode, though I think Pickle Rick has been the best so far this season.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/388 "2017-08-31T15:44:57Z")

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Found this this morning, which was perfect for what I needed it for;

![](https://media.tenor.com/images/34a1f795b46e440a431e5577c4e766cb/tenor.gif)

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/389 "2017-08-31T18:03:47Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> He should get an implantable immortality field.

Rick did have a personal protection field in the Vindicators episode.

Speaking of which, I couldn’t figure out why Alan Rails didn’t immediately summon a ghost train to exit Rick’s Saw games. It was only now that I realized the writers could have very easily closed that plot hole by having Alan blow his whistle ineffectually. Then cut to Rick shrugging his shoulders and mentioning off-handedly that drunk Rick must have installed a ghost train dampening field in this room.

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**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/390 "2017-09-11T04:12:46Z")

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That was messed up.

That was really messed up.

I wondered what I would do tonight without Twin Peaks to mess me up. Turns out Roiland and Harmon had my back.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/391 "2017-09-11T09:43:08Z")

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> [@Hoops](#):
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> That was messed up.
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> That was really messed up.
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> I wondered what I would do tonight without Twin Peaks to mess me up. Turns out Roiland and Harmon had my back.

I think we’ll be picking this one apart for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/392 "2017-09-11T19:05:57Z")

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_“You’re pitching the policeman’s ball to a black teenager here.”_

Ouch. Also :D.

Absolutely brilliant episode.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/393 "2017-09-11T20:04:00Z")

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Horrible horrible place. Ricks oppressing Ricks and Morty’s for no reason other than to have their own city.

Time for Rick Prime (our anti-hero) to collect his infinite daughters and train them up as an army to liberate the place.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/394 "2017-09-11T20:07:03Z")

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The “Simple Rick’s” stuff was hilarious. And kinda horrifying. But mostly hilarious. 😃

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/395 "2017-09-11T23:49:27Z")

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Wow, just wow.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/396 "2017-09-11T23:57:10Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Wow, just wow.

_“Oh, geez.”_

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/397 "2017-09-12T01:14:55Z")

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The Central Finite Curve just had its population thinned out a bit after that episode.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/398 "2017-09-12T01:22:38Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Wow, just wow.

Yeah. Just watched it and my jaw still hasn’t returned to its proper position.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/399 "2017-09-12T04:14:00Z")

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Yeesh, that was pretty damn dark. I assume the new President is the evil Morty who had the dome of eternally-tortured Mortys awhile back? And we never saw Atlantis, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/400 "2017-09-12T04:49:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yeesh, that was pretty damn dark. I assume the new President is the evil Morty who had the dome of eternally-tortured Mortys awhile back? And we never saw Atlantis, dammit!

Yes. The stinger was the bodies of everyone who’d been killed in the episode floating in space around the Citadel, and next to Campaign Manager Morty were the photos he’d been given, which were of Evil Morty.

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